Posted on 09/28/2022 12:19:23 PM PDT by Cathi
That too.
Maybe it was somebody who had publicly threatened to end the use of Nordstream...Joe Biden, as a matter of fact, did just that.
Russia had no incentive to destroy the pipelines. They could have just turned off the valves at the front end.
Blaming Russia for the undersea explosions is just more global gaslighting.
This was the plan all along. The U.S. was to blow up the pipelines and blame Russia. Everybody else could then jump on that ridiculous lie and repeat it.
“here are state actors e.g. North Korea, Iran, Pakistan etc who could pull something like this off. Launch a submersible drone with explosives from a third party “
It doesn’t need to be that fancy. These attacks could have been done with a couple of fishing boats and some C4.
Most likely this was one of the nearby countries that loathes Russia with a fiery passion. Lithuania, Poland, etc.
If there is any truth to that, it may portend the end of NATO.
Yep.
Russia, moreover, needs the pipeline. Its economy depends on selling oil.
Turning off the spigot required no damage be done to it.
We just finished a century of wars because non-state and state aligned Marxist / socialist turds wanted to see the world burn to bring about their feted revolution ... arguably extending back well into the 19th century too ... and I’m always suspicious at what those will be up to.
Germany has a history of “pragmatism” over “ideology”. That’s why it continues to invest in Iran, for an example, despite the chance Iran could very well use any nuclear weapons they develop against Germany. And we see it here, blithely relying on a pariah Russia for its energy.
He’s a native Portuguese speaker. Writing in another language can be difficult because the way you normally put things is different in other languages.
My first thot about the pipes blowing was that the demo devices might well have been placed some time ago and just waiting for the coded signal when someone got pizzed. Remember that Evergiven ship, the one stuck in the Suez? That thing spent a lot of time in the Baltic area, at Bremen, et al. and never did completely unload.? I always had the notion that it was dropping something off, somewhere, for someone, because you never heard a single complaint from alleged shippers who would not have gotten their stuff? ——Going to restock on tinfoil now.
Well, that explains why it was too much work to read.
Obama wants to be a war time president to unite US, LOL:-)
They want a War to crimininalize all dissent.
“Obama wants to be a war time president to unite US”
Obama held back lethal weapons to Ukraine - I’d trade him for this junta ANY DAY.
I wouldn’t. Obamalini set i tall in motion, and weapons and training were provided via NATO to Ukraine right after the coup. No NATO weapons could have been provided via without our consent.
Well they blew the horns
And the walls came down
They’d all been warned
And the walls came down
They stood there laughing
They’re not laughing anymore
The walls came down
I don’t think there are any Russians
And there ain’t no Yanks
Just corporate criminals
Playin’ with tanks
Fair comment...just comparing him to the Junta that has now given us a hot war, something Obama took some action to avoid (although Skunk Cabbage would have started in 2017, if she won).
As far as Obama was concerned, the time wasn’t right for anything more than the war in the Donbass. Provoking the RF to intervene had to wait for a time when the Lords of NATO thought the AFU was ready.
...good point.
Good analysis!
“So that brings us to the key question of which Western intel apparatus designed the sabotage. Prime candidates are of course CIA and MI6 – with Poland set up as the fall guy and Denmark playing a very dodgy part: it’s impossible that Copenhagen was not at least “briefed” on the intel.”
Yup. And which two countries have been actively sabotaging peace talks between Russia and Ukraine since before the war started???
Yup. Same dudes. The US, us, is da bad guys in this one, methinks. And if so, it will backfire spectacularly.
Like everything else they do.
Rapidly approaching War Crimes here. Us.
It’s time we just washed our hands of NATO and Europe. Let those idiots fend for themselves.
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