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Germany and EU have been handed over a declaration of war
PressTV ^ | September 28, 2022 | Pepe Escobar

Posted on 09/28/2022 12:19:23 PM PDT by Cathi

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1 posted on 09/28/2022 12:19:23 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi

All that money Ukraine paid Big Guy through his son, and Brandon still stirs up Russia to be even harder on Ukraine.


2 posted on 09/28/2022 12:20:49 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Cathi

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3 posted on 09/28/2022 12:24:07 PM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: Cathi

Lots of information here, however no one has yet claimed responsibility so speculation runs rampant.


4 posted on 09/28/2022 12:27:35 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Cathi
It would be nice to know who is running our country, pushing us into WW3. Is that too much to ask?

It sure ain't Senile Joe.


5 posted on 09/28/2022 12:28:19 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Tell It Right

“ All that money Ukraine paid Big Guy through his son, and Brandon still stirs up Russia to be even harder on Ukraine”

This will continue until all the witnesses are liquidated, even down to the last Ukrainian…

Has anyone bothered to think that this was NATO destroying two Russian pipelines? What is Russia going to do now in retaliation?


6 posted on 09/28/2022 12:31:26 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Fill your lamps!)
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To: Dogbert41

This reeks of gulf of Tonkin


7 posted on 09/28/2022 12:33:20 PM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: Dogbert41

IMHO it’s EU destroying the pipelines so that the EU leaders can keep pushing their green madness. Right now the EU masses are getting restless about energy and are tired of hearing the EU blame Russia. Damaging the pipelines gives the EU leaders false credence in saying, “See? Nat gas is not dependable even if we’re on good terms with Russia. We need more green energy.”


8 posted on 09/28/2022 12:33:37 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Travis McGee

“It would be nice to know who is running our country, pushing us into WW3. Is that too much to ask?”

Why? WW3 will be FUN!!! Sure, 90% of Americans will be killed, but out in the country here, I’ll be in that 10%, go hunt me some deer, and live off the land!!!

But seriously...if Trump were president doing 2% of this crap, he would have been removed by now. But Republicans:

“We have to speak with one voice on foreign policy (even if that means having the country needless nuked off the map). We must show comity with the Democrats, so we will not be commenting on this (suicidal policy).”

Sincerely, the (castrated) GOP.


9 posted on 09/28/2022 12:35:12 PM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 40 degrees)
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To: Cathi

I just did a quick check of a very well-known liberal website. There is zero mention of this pipeline sabotage. Literally no one is talking about it. It’s as if the explosions never happened.

Very odd. You’d think someone would post about it, if only to somehow blame Trump.


10 posted on 09/28/2022 12:35:52 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Dogbert41

“What is Russia going to do now in retaliation?”

Don’t know, but if communication with Europe becomes more difficult and much slower, I wouldn’t be surprised.


11 posted on 09/28/2022 12:36:41 PM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 43 degrees)
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To: Travis McGee

http://johnhelmer.org/the-bornholm-blow-up-repeats-the-bornholm-bash-poland-attacks-germany-and-blames-russia/

Pepe Escobar:

This column by Helmer is a killer. He must have got it from Russian intel sources. Of course, the Russians already know who did it (satellites, electronic monitoring working 24/7). Helmer goes all out for the bloody Poles, Navy + Special Forces (quite plausible; very good internal details); American planning and technical support (extra plausible); aid by Danish and Swedish military (plausible).

That ties in completely with my conversation with a German intel source: he said the BND was pissed because THEY WERE NOT IN THE LOOP!!!!! Of course not: this was an anti-German op. That may turn out metastasizing into an intra-NATO war. APPROVED BY THE AMERICANS - as in the neo-con Neanderthals who are running the government machine behind the senile teleprompter reader.

That’s the point of my column: a declaration of war against Germany and against the CITIZENS of the EU - not Brussels (NATO runs Brussels, not sadomaso domina von der Lugen). No wonder the Germans are absolutely mum. NO ONE from the German government is saying ANYTHING. This ain’t pretty. There WILL be blood.


12 posted on 09/28/2022 12:36:57 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi
Pepe Escobar is always interesting and globally well connected.

Could be, but he/she/it is such a horrible writer I gave up after the first paragraph.

13 posted on 09/28/2022 12:37:00 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Tell It Right

. Right now the EU masses are getting restless about energy and are tired of hearing the EU blame Russia. Damaging the pipelines gives the EU leaders false credence in saying, “See? Nat gas is not dependable even if we’re on good terms with Russia. We need more green energy.”

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Which is why good old reliable solar and wind power is ready to step in and make up the shortfall. By 2075. Maybe. Just hold out until then.


14 posted on 09/28/2022 12:37:32 PM PDT by TN4Liberty (My tagline disappeared so this is my new one.)
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To: SpaceBar
Biden already promised to destroy those Pipelines.


15 posted on 09/28/2022 12:38:15 PM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see. #MAGAA)
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To: Cathi

While I too fully suspect this was a US Deep State operation, I see this differently from how he sees it. He sees it as America reducing various European countries to the state of vassals and talks about the great economic harm being cut off from Russian energy will cause them.

I’d like to point out their utter dependence on Russian energy was always extremely naive, shortsighted and avoidable. The economic harm they will suffer is entirely their own fault for decades of very foolish political decisions. They never needed be so dependent on another country (Russia) that was always a competitor at best if not an adversary. They allowed idiotic Gaia Worship to guide their energy policy choices and took advice from an autistic Swedish teenage high school dropout when they could have kept open their nuclear power plants and built more, when they could have fracked their own oil and gas, when they could have mined their own coal, when they could have built LNG terminals and more storage capacity and secured long term contracts with other suppliers.

There was simply no thought given to security. Instead, they chose to freeload off of America for their security. They chose to let America run all the risks, pay all the bills, do whatever fighting was necessary, etc while they sat there doing business with the very country they demanded America provide them security against and while they arrogantly laughed when warned that they needed to make themselves more energy independent. The Germans for example refused to keep their word to provide a measly 2% of GDP for defense. They didn’t even come close to that in fact. They were hardly alone in that among European countries.

They’re not laughing now.


16 posted on 09/28/2022 12:38:19 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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"Which is why good old reliable solar and wind power is ready to step in and make up the shortfall. By 2075. Maybe. Just hold out until then."

Agreed. Now I like my home solar. But I'm not trying to run a city or state with it. I'm not even trying to be 100% dependent on it. The only reason it works for me is because its purpose is to cut down on the sky high costs the Dims are putting onto us.

17 posted on 09/28/2022 12:41:39 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Cathi

There are state actors e.g. North Korea, Iran, Pakistan etc who could pull something like this off. Launch a submersible drone with explosives from a third party flagged freighter for example. The NATO theory is one of many. Proof is needed at this point before WW3 erupts.


18 posted on 09/28/2022 12:44:27 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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You know to the dummy that think Russia blew up the pipe line...

the ONLY USE was for Russia to sell and sent gas to the west....

So if they wanted, Russia could have just said we’re no longer selling gas to the West

And then destroyed all the pipeline on their land out to the International waters

And do it very publicly...

As No one could say a word

it’s their land

it’s their gas

and they don’t want to sell it

This was done by someone other than Russia

That didn’t want Russia to have the ability to sell gas to Europe


19 posted on 09/28/2022 12:46:02 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat90000)
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To: mrmeyer

Or the USS Maine.


20 posted on 09/28/2022 12:59:05 PM PDT by packagingguy
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