[SmokingJoe]

I, and the dictionary, say Honor is amoral, by the most major definitions

You say so.
No dictionary says so.
Stop gaslighting.

It does not mean good or bad.

Honor always portends good.

You believe Honor can't be had among criminals for the most accomplished murderers within. I say you are out to lunc

That's like saying there are mobster who are good fathers so being a good father is bad.
It isn't.
Even the worst mobsters till do plenty of good things. That doesn't make the good things bad.

[ConservativeMind]

Maybe Oxford University Press can help you understand:

Honor Cultures and Violence

https://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/view/document/obo-9780195396607/obo-9780195396607-0160.xml