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Ruy Dias de Bivar is the freeper who found the image and brought it to my attention.

He was very helpful in finding the provenance of the image.

There are several lawsuits challenging the Constitutionality of bans on arms while using public transportation.

1 posted on 09/22/2022 5:45:01 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The image referenced in the article.

2 posted on 09/22/2022 5:46:13 AM PDT by marktwain
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Hochul is the worst thing to happen to New York since Cuomo.


3 posted on 09/22/2022 5:47:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Firearm safety sure had come along way though. Don’t think I’d wanna sit next to any of those fellas.


5 posted on 09/22/2022 5:48:27 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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In the illustration, note the lack of ‘trigger guards’ on the visible handguns. Imagine pulling one of these out of clothing and an undesired bang down your body!

Would this lack make these an assault weapon?


8 posted on 09/22/2022 5:56:29 AM PDT by SES1066 (More & more it looks like Brandon's best decision was Kamala! UGH!)
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Ruy Dias de Bivar is the freeper

Never heard of him nor can I find him in search

17 posted on 09/22/2022 6:07:33 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't walk thru the watermelon patch)
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Want to add that the map is a Sanborn fire insurance map.

https://www.loc.gov/collections/sanborn-maps/?fa=subject:insurance+maps&st=gallery

Different colors indicate building material, i.e., brick, wood, adobe, etc.

O K Corral in this image: https://www.loc.gov/resource/g4334tm.g001791904/?sp=4&st=image&r=0.343,0.831,0.577,0.366,0


25 posted on 09/22/2022 6:16:26 AM PDT by KingLudd
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With all due respect, this image is an illustration rather than a photograph, and might have been drawn with all those guns to make some sort of point rather than because that was actually the reality of the day. I’m not sure how heavily it weighs on the question of how common carry was back in the day.


26 posted on 09/22/2022 6:16:52 AM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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What was the NYC murder rate in 1884?


30 posted on 09/22/2022 6:23:38 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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Forgive me telling this again:

I grew up in a medium-size city in upstate NY, in the mid-1960s.

My parents wanted me to learn to swim, so they sent me to swimming lessons at the YMCA, which was located right in the center of downtown, almost across from the main library.

So three times a week I would board a city bus, pay thirty-five cents, and be trundled downtown to swim at the "Y".

Pretty much every time I went, there would be three or four boys in the back of the bus with rifles. I assume they were .22s, but I'm not sure.

The reason? They were going to the "Y" too, because the "Y" had a shooting range in the basement. It was a long room that extended completely across (and under) the street in front of the building. They were going to practice their shooting, and perhaps to take shooting lessons.

There was a young man who was a big-time gun enthusiast who was closely associated with the "Y" at that time. He was nerdy, and studious. I'm sure he was studying engineering, because on the occasions when I went to check out the shooting range (which any kid was perfectly free to do, as long as you stayed behind a red line on the floor), I noticed that he had his calculus homework on his little desk behind the firing line. This would be when he was up, showing someone how to clear his gun, or how to hold his gun, etc. He wore heavy glasses, and when I see the logo of the "X For Dummies" books I always think of him. He kind of looked like the guy in that logo.

Anyway, the boys on the bus carried their rifles out in the open usually, aiming them at the ceiling as they rode in the wide rear seat. Some had cases, but most carried them out for anyone to see.

I was in third and fourth grade at the time, and the boys were definitely "boys," not much older than I. Perhaps in junior high school, maybe high school.

I'm almost certain there were no girls permitted in the "Y" at that time.

31 posted on 09/22/2022 6:25:34 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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Although I am a ccw holder and pack a big ole .45 most everywhere I go as well as openly carry here on my farm that picture scares me silly . Every one is pointing that firearm at others with absolutely no safety precautions at all . My dad would have slapped them all and proceeded to give them a safety briefing . Our home had cops coming and going daily and that carelessness would have been soundly rebuked .


33 posted on 09/22/2022 6:26:35 AM PDT by David Moser
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I bet those streetcars were cleaner and safer than the subway and buses of New York!! 🤓


49 posted on 09/22/2022 8:56:16 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Defund the FBI, the American Stasi..)
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