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Burning coal to create thermal energy: loss of 20% chemical energy
Using steam to turn turbines to make electricity: loss of 20% mechanical energy
Storing electricity in a battery: conversion loss of 40%
Turning battery energy into mechanical energy (electric car): conversion loss of 40%
What is left?
13 posted on 09/20/2022 10:07:23 AM PDT by kickstart ("A gun is a tool. It is only as good or as bad as the man who uses it" . Alan Ladd in 'Shane' )
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16 posted on 09/20/2022 10:21:07 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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kickstart :" Burning coal to create thermal energy: loss of 20% chemical energy
Using steam to turn turbines to make electricity: loss of 20% mechanical energy
Storing electricity in a battery: conversion loss of 40%
Turning battery energy into mechanical energy (electric car): conversion loss of 40%
What is left?

Carts driven by cows, donkeys, and horses
But then again, you run into the ambient methane production,
so i guess that we are just left with unicorn fart power

18 posted on 09/20/2022 10:24:55 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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