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Justice Department Desperate to Conceal ‘Classified’ Records
American Greatness ^ | 19 Sep, 2022 | Julie Kelly

Posted on 09/20/2022 4:54:11 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 09/20/2022 4:54:11 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

The coverup of the soft coup continues even while fabrications continue.


2 posted on 09/20/2022 4:54:21 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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3 posted on 09/20/2022 4:56:18 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: MtnClimber

Merry Garland’s DOJ Merrymen sure do suck.


4 posted on 09/20/2022 5:04:36 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Texas is NOT a border town for freeloading RAT voters. It's my home!!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

It is the 95% that make the other 5% look bad.


5 posted on 09/20/2022 5:06:40 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Travis McGee

Federal Bureau of Instigators.


6 posted on 09/20/2022 5:12:19 AM PDT by cp124 (80% of everything is fake or a lie.)
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To: MtnClimber

Since President Trumps lawyers were not allowed to witness what was taken.....or even allowed in the building while this charade was happening there was absolutely no oversight as to what was taken.

The doj can now make up any story they want as to what they found.

This whole mess is beyond despicable, illegal and really just pure evil.


7 posted on 09/20/2022 5:17:07 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: MtnClimber
I don't think the leadership in the DOJ and FBI understand just how dangerous a loss of faith in our national institutions actually is.

Our country, our culture, and our very society rests on a foundation of trust in these institutions.

Thx to the Democrats, the Deep State, and other institutions that have given themselves over to the Left, the very fabric of American society is teetering on the edge of collapse.

8 posted on 09/20/2022 5:24:38 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: MtnClimber
It is the 95% that make the other 5% look bad.

They are all complicit. ALL of them.

9 posted on 09/20/2022 5:24:53 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: MtnClimber

This is merely a (probably partial) listing of possibly applicable law and no inference that Trump committed a related crime should be made:

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798

(d)Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
(e)Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
(f)Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense,
(1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or
(2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793


10 posted on 09/20/2022 5:26:34 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: MtnClimber

I am going to make a wild prediction here.

The FBI and DOJ buried the Biden Laptop, not even placing it into evidence, so that it “would not interfere with the election.

When the Special Master is done, it will be Nov 30th and Trump will have already declared.

My prediction: Full steam ahead by the intelligence community, administration, and DOJ/FBI to smear Trump and spy yet again. They will once again treat him differently because he represents us.


11 posted on 09/20/2022 5:32:21 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: MtnClimber

From Wikipedia:

In June 1971, Daniel Ellsberg and Anthony Russo were charged with a felony under the Espionage Act of 1917 because they lacked legal authority to publish classified documents that came to be known as the Pentagon Papers. The Supreme Court in New York Times Co. v. United States found that the government had not made a successful case for prior restraint of Free Speech, but a majority of the justices ruled that the government could still prosecute the Times and the Post for violating the Espionage Act in publishing the documents. Ellsberg and Russo were not acquitted of violating the Espionage Act. However, they were freed due to a mistrial based on irregularities in the government’s case.

The divided Supreme Court had denied the government’s request to restrain the press. In their opinions, the justices expressed varying degrees of support for the First Amendment claims of the press against the government’s “heavy burden of proof” in establishing that the publisher “has reason to believe” the material published “could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation”.

The case prompted Harold Edgar and Benno C. Schmidt Jr. to write an article on espionage law in the 1973 Columbia Law Review. Their article was entitled “The Espionage Statutes and Publication of Defense Information”. Essentially they found the law poorly written and vague, with parts of it probably unconstitutional. Their article became widely cited in books and in future court arguments on Espionage cases.

United States v. Dedeyan in 1978 was the first prosecution under 793(f)(2) (Dedeyan ‘failed to report’ that information had been disclosed). The courts relied on Gorin v. United States (1941) for precedent. The ruling touched on several constitutional questions, including vagueness of the law and whether the information was “related to national defense”. The defendant received a 3-year sentence.

In 1979–80, Truong Dinh Hung (aka David Truong) and Ronald Louis Humphrey were convicted under 793(a), (c), and (e) as well as several other laws. The ruling discussed several constitutional questions regarding espionage law, “vagueness”, the difference between classified information and “national defense information”, wiretapping and the Fourth Amendment. It also commented on the notion of bad faith (scienter) being a requirement for conviction even under 793(e); an “honest mistake” was said not to be a violation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_1917


12 posted on 09/20/2022 5:38:09 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Thankyou for posting the law. Only problem is that the Presidential record act, and the ability for a POTUS to declassify anything, clouds the picture.

Moreover, that law is in conflict if the records demonstrate government illegal activity, classified or not, they are in no way protected.

Crossfire Hurricane was illegal government activity, covering it up with ‘top secret’ claims are irrelevant.

Circumstances matter, what’s in the documents matters. This represents new ground. Will see what the special master finds.

I might add, if the search was based on illegal documents or charges, and done as a general search instead of specific, is it fruit of the poison tree? I think so.


13 posted on 09/20/2022 5:39:02 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: Brian Griffin

Trump declassified all FBI/DOJ documents related to the Russia claims. Trump also ordered all of those documents released to the public. The DOJ fought all of this which they could not legally do. Trump did not want these documents released to harm national security. Trump wanted to release them to prove that it was leftists in government colluding against him with false information. The FBI classified them because they were protecting themselves.


14 posted on 09/20/2022 5:39:41 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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In the end all they are going to do is cement Trump’s legacy as one of the very best American Presidents.


15 posted on 09/20/2022 5:45:38 AM PDT by heshtesh
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“Daniel Ellsberg (born April 7, 1931) is an American political activist, and former United States military analyst. While employed by the RAND Corporation, Ellsberg precipitated a national political controversy in 1971 when he released the Pentagon Papers, a top-secret Pentagon study of the U.S. government decision-making in relation to the Vietnam War, to The New York Times, The Washington Post and other newspapers.

“On January 3, 1973, Ellsberg was charged under the Espionage Act of 1917 along with other charges of theft and conspiracy, carrying a total maximum sentence of 115 years. Because of governmental misconduct and illegal evidence-gathering, and the defense by Leonard Boudin and Harvard Law School professor Charles Nesson, Judge William Matthew Byrne Jr. dismissed all charges against Ellsberg on May 11, 1973.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ellsberg

“In late 1969, with the assistance of his former RAND Corporation colleague Anthony Russo, Ellsberg secretly made several sets of photocopies of the classified documents to which he had access; these later became known as the Pentagon Papers. They revealed that, early on, the government had knowledge that the war as then resourced could most likely not be won. Further, as an editor of The New York Times was to write much later, these documents ‘demonstrated, among other things, that the Johnson Administration had systematically lied, not only to the public but also to Congress, about a subject of transcendent national interest and significance.’”

“The right of the press to publish the papers was upheld in The New York Times Co. v. United States.”


16 posted on 09/20/2022 5:46:05 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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“Trump declassified all FBI/DOJ documents related to the Russia claims. Trump also ordered all of those documents released to the public.”

I’ve read something like 700 pages in the recently snatched documents were indicated by markings to be classified. After excluding such documents, how many pages are left?

I don’t expect you to answer that question, but the FBI & DOJ should.


17 posted on 09/20/2022 5:52:10 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: MtnClimber

When there is no law, there is no law.

Garland walks around unprotected


18 posted on 09/20/2022 5:57:26 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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The real cover up is that the DoJ is purposely over-classifying documents and has been doing it overtime in this case(s) against Trump.


19 posted on 09/20/2022 5:58:36 AM PDT by cranked
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This gives possible reasons why documents need to be kept secret:

“UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES MAY AN AGENCY EXEMPT RECORDS FROM AUTOMATIC DECLASSIFICATION?

To exempt records from automatic declassification, agencies must have the specific authority to extend the duration of classification beyond 25 years in the form of a File Series Exemption and/or an Interagency Security Classification Appeals Panel (ISCAP) approved declassification guide. Information may be considered for exemption if one or more of the following exemption categories apply:

25X1 – reveal the identity of a confidential human source, a human intelligence source, a relationship with an intelligence or security service of a foreign government or international organization, or a non-human intelligence source; or impair the effectiveness of an intelligence method currently in use, available for use, or under development;
25X2 – reveal information that would assist in the development, production, or use of weapons of mass destruction;
25X3 – reveal information that would impair U.S. cryptologic systems or activities;
25X4 – reveal information that would impair the application of state-of-the-art technology within a US weapon system;
25X5 – reveal formally named or numbered U.S. military war plans that remain in effect, or reveal operational or tactical elements of prior plans that are contained in such active plans;
25X6 – reveal information including foreign government information, that would cause serious harm to relations between the U.S. and a foreign government, or to ongoing diplomatic activities of the U.S;
25X7 – reveal information that would impair the current ability of U.S. government officials to protect the President, Vice President, and other protectees for whom protection services, in the interest of national security, are authorized;
25X8 – reveal information that would seriously impair current national security emergency preparedness plans or reveal current vulnerabilities of systems, installations, or infrastructures relating to the national security;
25X9 – violate a statute, treaty, or international agreement that does not permit the automatic or unilateral declassification of information at 25 years.”

https://www.justice.gov/archives/open/declassification/declassification-faq


20 posted on 09/20/2022 5:59:11 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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