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To: Jonty30
The very first step is the creation of hyper-pure silicon. The second step is the creation of a hyper-pure silicon crystal. The third step is the creation of a hyper-pure silicon wafer.

Most people have seen photos and videos of microchips being built on silicon wafers.

Conversely, most people have no idea where those wafers come from. If you sent a photograph of a silicon crystal growing furnace to the Department of Software Engineering at your local university, I would wager that 80% of the students would have NO idea what it is!

Most wafers come from long, sausage shaped, brilliantly reflective, silver colored, metallic crystals. The individual wafers are literally sawed (usually wire sawed) off the hyper-pure sausage.

Since the 1960s, the diameter of silicon crystals have steadily increased from 25 mm (1 inch) to 300 mm (12 inches). The larger the diameter, the shorter the crystal length becomes because of weight issues. However, the larger the diameter, the more microchips can be created on one wafer.

Once the wafer is sawed off, it goes through many, many processes to create microchips. When the processes are complete, the individual microchips are sawed off, tested, and shipped.

In 2022, almost all these processes, from crystal growing to finished microchips, are highly automated. My point - human labor costs are not that significant.

It is incomprehensible to me that Europe and the USA have basically surrendered the mass production of microchips to Taiwan, South Korea, China, and Japan.

15 posted on 09/16/2022 2:43:15 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

>Taiwan, South Korea, China, and Japan

I can see Taiwan, but the US is way ahead of all these other countries on your list.

For example, China can only produce very cheap low performance chips, where the key to success is squeezing that lemon for one more drop and making the inferior product just a fraction of a percentage cheaper.


17 posted on 09/16/2022 3:08:42 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: zeestephen

I appreciate your comment.


19 posted on 09/16/2022 3:13:57 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Some men want to watch the world burn. It is they that want you to buy an electric car.)
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To: zeestephen

We have the Democrat EPA.
They don’t.


23 posted on 09/16/2022 3:28:11 AM PDT by rellic
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To: zeestephen

Intel and TSMC are both building huge fab facilities in the Phoenix area.


29 posted on 09/16/2022 4:13:41 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: zeestephen
If you sent a photograph of a silicon crystal growing furnace to the Department of Software Engineering at your local university, I would wager that 80% of the students would have NO idea what it is!

Silicon crystal growing has about the same relationship to software engineering as modern lithographic high-speed printing has to the study of literature.

It is incomprehensible to me that Europe and the USA have basically surrendered the mass production of microchips to Taiwan, South Korea, China, and Japan.

We've seemingly surrendered the mass production of almost everything. That bag of clothespins you buy at Walmart says "made in China" on it. (I understand that it's probably not profitable to make clothespins in the US. But why China?)

Chips are made in the Far East because the overwhelming majority of them are immediately incorporated into consumer electronics products, and the overwhelming majority of them are made in the Far East. (Not saying that's a good thing, it's just a fact.)

39 posted on 09/16/2022 5:38:21 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: zeestephen
It is incomprehensible to me that Europe and the USA have basically surrendered the mass production of microchips to Taiwan, South Korea, China, and Japan.

Seppuku trade policy by the Uniparty.

48 posted on 09/16/2022 6:44:26 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: zeestephen
It is incomprehensible to me that Europe and the USA have basically surrendered the mass production of microchips

This is so important! Microchip still has foundries in the US, and plans to build a few more.

51 posted on 09/16/2022 7:05:52 AM PDT by GingisK
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