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'Game-changing' new battery for electric cars charges in 3 minutes and lasts for 20 YEARS - more than twice as long as current EV batteries
Daily Mail ^ | Published: 21:24 EDT, 15 September 2022 | Updated: 21:46 EDT, 15 September 2022 | Jonathan Chadwick

Posted on 09/15/2022 9:24:36 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

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To: Zhang Fei
"lithium metal, rather than lithium ion"

Anyone know what the difference is?

Do you process lithium ore more to get metal than you do to get ion? Say a given ton of mined lithium ore converts to X amount of metal and/or Y amount of ion? Is it a cleaner, less costly process to produce the metal than it is to produce the ion?

141 posted on 09/16/2022 5:50:58 AM PDT by Flint
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To: unread

Now, imagine 10,000 cars across LA all charging at the same time...


Whole state would go dark by the tenth one


142 posted on 09/16/2022 5:51:45 AM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Zhang Fei

I am sick of articles that lie to you in the headlines and disappoint in the text. The headline says very clearly that this exists: “new battery” “charges” “lasts”. That is the language used for something that already exists.

The truth is that it doesn’t exist. It is a concept.

Money is being spent to “build the battery design.” Not to “build the battery.” The article doesn’t give the source of the money nor the “licence”. Why is a license needed to design a battery?


143 posted on 09/16/2022 5:52:02 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Biden has gone full nazi. No surprise. He told us on Sept 1, during his 20 minute hate speech.)
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To: DaxtonBrown; TexasGator

How many gallons of water are required to put out a Tesla fire?


144 posted on 09/16/2022 5:54:17 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: I want the USA back

I am sick of articles that lie to you in the headlines and disappoint in the text. The headline says very clearly that this exists: “new battery” “charges” “lasts”. That is the language used for something that already exists.

The truth is that it doesn’t exist. It is a concept.

Money is being spent to “build the battery design.” Not to “build the battery.” The article doesn’t give the source of the money nor the “licence”. Why is a license needed to design a battery?

/\

Me Too

It’s why I call them
Urinalists.

They are on your leg
And call it rain.


145 posted on 09/16/2022 6:06:21 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cuz1961

They pee on your leg
And call it rain

( fu a.i.)


146 posted on 09/16/2022 6:07:05 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: TexasGator

Hey Tex, ever examine the innards of those transformers that hang from many power lines? They feature the very best of 1940s and 1950s technologies. You really believe they will handle the rapid transfers of massive electrical energy these new batteries are purported to require? You had better amend your build back better fantasy.


147 posted on 09/16/2022 6:14:10 AM PDT by allendale
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To: Zhang Fei

Are the battery life statements as accurate as the global warming figures? < /sarc >


148 posted on 09/16/2022 6:22:52 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Yo-Yo
YEP!

Battery Capacity => 100KWH * 60minutes/hour = 6000KW-minutes

Recharging Power => P6000KW-minutes / 3minutes[charging time] = 2000KW = 2Megawatts

149 posted on 09/16/2022 6:24:13 AM PDT by caprock (from the flats of SE New Mexico)
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To: Zhang Fei

but a much bigger chance it will explode during charging ?


150 posted on 09/16/2022 6:24:35 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Zhang Fei

EVs the New Snake Oil


151 posted on 09/16/2022 6:25:16 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Zhang Fei

You will eat, bye and bye,
In that glorious land above the sky;
Work and pray, live on hay,
You’ll get pie in the sky when you die.


152 posted on 09/16/2022 6:34:09 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: TexasGator
Actually, we don't have 12 hours per day with “lots” of spare capacity. Anyone that has worked with a variable rate electrical costs has direct experience with this.

On weekdays, the “lots” of spare capacity time period is typically about 6 hours per day, midnight to 6am. There's some increased spare capacity available for about 2 hours before midnight and after 6am. At any time, the spare capacity can be instantly and radically reduced by a power plant completely tripping offline. Impossible? No.

I watched a modern 1500 megawatt cogeneration thermal plant trip off due to fire. Totally destroyed. The Texas Grid absorbed the electric loss in a fraction of a second then carried the load until a new construction cogen plant came online about 6 months later.

The cogen steam load was replaced in a day or so by a 1940 thermal plant that had been mothballed 10 years earlier. High level preservation with corrosion inhibitors, plumps and valves exercised regularly, antiquated controls maintained. After this last hurrah by the old power plant, it was demolished a year after its steam was no longer needed.

Economic impacts…. At the time, this chemical complex had revenues of something north of $100MM per month. Big place. Pulling a number out of the air, let’s say the grid could not absorb this additional load and the old, mothballed power plant was not onsite. Facility revenues reduced by $50MM per month and 5000 trained employees furloughed because the spare electricity and steam capacity was not available.

Things roll downhill and suppliers, service providers and external customers affected as well. Several 10s of thousands of other persons lost jobs and other companies had $500MM per month in reduced revenues. Shortages of certain consumer and industrial products led to retail inflation and another $500MM per month of adverse impacts.

The conventional electric grid should not and must not be treated so frivolously as is the latest fashion with green energy crap. There is a firm foundation to society that is dangerously being tinkered with. My opinions….

153 posted on 09/16/2022 6:34:58 AM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: Zhang Fei

I’d have to see that to believe it.


154 posted on 09/16/2022 6:49:18 AM PDT by RobertoinAL
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To: Zhang Fei

More and more “breakthroughs” that never amount to crap.


155 posted on 09/16/2022 6:55:58 AM PDT by EastTexasTraveler
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To: allendale

“Hey Tex, ever examine the innards of those transformers that hang from many power lines? “

Those transformers on the poles won’t be loaded with superchargers.


156 posted on 09/16/2022 7:11:12 AM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florids)
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To: Hootowl99

“Actually, we don’t have 12 hours per day with “lots” of spare capacity. “

Tes


157 posted on 09/16/2022 7:12:01 AM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florids)
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To: Yo-Yo

“To charge the same battery in 3 minutes would require 2 Megawatts of energy to be delivered to the battery!”

Just put a bigger breaker in your fuse box, problem solved!


158 posted on 09/16/2022 7:18:40 AM PDT by PTBAA
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To: Mark17

With or without insulation? 😂😂😂


159 posted on 09/16/2022 7:45:27 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Yep hydrogen powered cars don’t need them BMW snickers.


160 posted on 09/16/2022 8:24:43 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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