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Gore Vidal/Wm. F. Buckley Debates-1968 Conventions.
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Posted on 09/08/2022 7:00:28 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

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To: DIRTYSECRET

I would beg to differ, but a good point; being in the position we were after WW2 was a major advantage.

Ike did have to walk very carefully during the beginning of the civil rights movement, segregationists were still very powerful, and I don’t envy him having to discern between our actual intelligence about the USSR and the extreme paranoia of the most fervent of the MIC.

Still, I can’t imagine Ike behaving the way a lot of subsequent presidents have. I hate screeching, shouting, denigrating the English language, and assigning evil motives to people just because they disagree with me.

I like decorum, calm and dignified speech, and loath hyperbole. If I’m mad enough to raise my voice, demonize those who disagree with me, or desecrate the English language. Old fuddy I am; I have guns in the closet, of course, but unless I’m to the point of using them, I prefer my politics polite and professorial, Firing Line being the gold standard, and even that a bit too maddening.


21 posted on 09/08/2022 9:59:55 AM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: Antoninus

I was referring to the fact that both of them were effeminate homosexuals.


22 posted on 09/08/2022 10:15:13 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Now if they call you a Nazi, you just shoot back with “But you call everyone and everything a Nazi. This chair is a Nazi”


23 posted on 09/08/2022 10:46:10 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: Republican in occupied CA

*I like decorum, calm and dignified speech, and loath hyperbole.*

That was Bush ‘43.

*I hate screeching, shouting, denigrating the English language, and assigning evil motives to people just because they disagree with me.* Sounds like Dick Cheney unless you ask Pat Leahy.


24 posted on 09/08/2022 10:48:31 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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I was referring to the fact that both of them were effeminate homosexuals.

Buckley was married and had a son. He also said stuff like this fairly regularly:

"It is both a fact and the popular perception that AIDS is the special curse of the homosexual....Everyone detected with AIDS should be tattooed in the upper forearm, to protect common-needle users, and on the buttocks, to prevent the victimization of other homosexuals."
25 posted on 09/08/2022 11:05:23 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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William F. Buckley had been an infantry officer in the Army.


26 posted on 09/08/2022 1:06:26 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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