[BenLurkin]

As soon as we start being an empire, you can start the clock.

[21twelve]

“As soon as we start being an empire, you can start the clock.”

I recall either Nixon or Reagan going on in a lengthy conversation about how the USA was not an “empire”. I imagine both of the touched on it, but I think it was Nixon that I’m recalling.

[Larry Lucido]

Exactly.

At the very earliest, you could start the clock at 1945, but even that is arguable.

Rome lasted as an empire for about 450 years.