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To: ransomnote

Now the anti-vaxxers are claiming deaths from cancer are really due to the vaccine?

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jul/29/gateway-pundit/deaths-three-doctors-canada-were-neither-sudden-no/

BTW, Steve Kirsch is a discredit source:

“As Kirsch has gone deeper into the anti-vaccine scene, many professional associates have increasingly distanced themselves from him. In May, all 12 members of CETF’s scientific advisory board resigned, citing his alarming dangerous claims and erratic behavior. Over the summer, the conflict reached his most recent startup, M10. Its board told him that if he wanted to remain part of the company he would have to stop making public anti-vaccine statements. In September, he resigned as CEO and gave up his board seat.”

https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/10/05/1036408/silicon-valley-millionaire-steve-kirsch-covid-vaccine-misinformation/

“In May 2021, Kirsch posted an article online claiming that COVID-19 vaccines affect fertility, while also underplaying the vaccines’ ability to prevent illness and death, both statements criticized by fact checkers as being inaccurate and misleading. In September 2021, speaking at an FDA meeting and identifying himself as CETF’s executive director, Kirsch claimed that the vaccines “kill twice as many as they save”; the FDA responded that Kirsch had misinterpreted data and that there was no evidence his statement was true. Reuters assessed the claim as false.

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/covid-19-vaccines-dont-affect-ovaries-or-fertility-in-general-the-vaccines-are-highly-effective-at-preventing-illness-and-death/

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-usa-idUSL1N2QP18K

“In October 2021, Kirsch founded the anti-vaccine group Vaccine Safety Research Foundation (VSRF), which created ads depicting deaths the group attributed to vaccines. Foundation advisors include Robert Malone, Peter McCullough, and Stephanie Seneff. Soon after, Kirsch appeared with Malone on the Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying podcast, which according to MIT Technical Review “introduced Kirsch to followers of the ‘intellectual dark web’” and allowed him to access a “large and receptive audience to his claims about a fluvoxamine conspiracy”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kirsch#cite_note-:1-15

“Blandly-named pseudo-medical organizations are promoting bad science, discredited drugs, and creating an industry of COVID denial.”

https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7nqm7/mysterious-medical-organizations-are-calling-for-an-end-to-covid-vaccines


30 posted on 08/31/2022 11:56:08 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Who pays you to post here?


32 posted on 08/31/2022 11:56:54 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (I got the <ΙΧΘΥΣ>< variant. Catch it. John 3:16)
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To: DugwayDuke; Jane Long; grey_whiskers; metmom

Just like Trump, Steve Kirsch 'gets' to be smeared by a dedicated, compromised, shill army of people in media and official positions, all singing together like a choir. The text you posted reminded me of the bizarre allegations that President Trump grabbed the steering wheel of the beast..

 Steve Kirsch and others have put together information reported to VAERS by the CDC (which stands accused of deleting certain records without cause) for the Covid 'vaccines'.

They've combed through the reports looking for the types of 'adverse events' reported post Covid 'vaccine'.  This system was to capture adverse events so that researchers monitoring the data could look for any unusual patterns beyond normal levels of background illnesses that would have occurred if the person had not been vaxxed. The CDC denies there's any reporting to VAERS that indicates cause for concern regarding the Covid 'vaccines'.

Here's an example - this is the number of reports of deaths occurring after vaccination ( days, months) regardless of known cause (this data is supposed to trigger research to determine if it's a causal event, but the CDC doesn't want to know re Covid 'vaccines).

The chart above shows that reports to VAERS of deaths (e.g., heart attack, stroke etc.) which 'happen' to occur after Covid 'vaccination'. Other vaccines receiving reports of death are shown in blue. Covid 'vaccines' have received far more reports of death than all other vaccines in the database since 1990. Yet, the CDC is satisfied that there is no reason for concern!

So the VAERS database has many more adverse events reported for Covid vaccines than any other vaccine, or combination of vaccines, in history. Some researching and waving the red flag, warning the public to take note, have been analyzing VAERS data and have found clusters of specific illnesses which, one would think, have triggered investigation and research to determine the cause of them. But, the CDC has an agenda, so...

Below is a chart showing the results of an analysis of VAERS data indicating short-term elevation of risks of reporting specific illnesses after Covid-vaccination. Per the table, there's a short-term elevated risk of being diagnosed with Parkinson's after Covid 'vaccination' that is 51 times the rate for years prior to Covid 'vax'. 

https://www.skirsch.com/covid/TFNT11.pdf


38 posted on 08/31/2022 12:04:20 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: DugwayDuke

Your post cites the FDA as a credible source. Odd, that.
And you quote a source that misstates the issue Kirsch discusses by labeling it “COVID denial”. That term is two lies in one, isn’t it.
Anyway.
Your credibility is gone, duke. Hit the road.


41 posted on 08/31/2022 12:13:02 PM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Are you really that dense—or just bought off?


42 posted on 08/31/2022 12:17:48 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: DugwayDuke

When you are relying on Politifact, Reuters, Wikipedia, and Vice to back up your claims, you have already lost.


45 posted on 08/31/2022 12:24:46 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: DugwayDuke

When one has to use left wing sites who have an agenda to “prove” your point, it’s a show of desperation


53 posted on 08/31/2022 1:40:30 PM PDT by roving ( Pronouns- libs/suk)
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To: DugwayDuke

If kirsch were right even 25% of the time there would be hundreds of thousands of people dropping in the street. I don’t recall hearing about that happening, do you?

Kirsch has no credibility whatsoever since none of his nonsense is ever verified by impartial sources. Or as one FReeper recently wrote “ kirsch is a crackpot”.


58 posted on 08/31/2022 2:33:08 PM PDT by Warriorposter
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To: DugwayDuke

LOL - “Hey everybody, Dr Kirsch is discredited in his ‘vaccine’ warnings because some ‘vaccine’ apologist publications said so.”

What in the world would you expect such publications to say? You think a magazine like “Leftwing Democrat Weekly” is going to publish an article saying “Hey, it turns out Donald Trump really is a nice guy”?


69 posted on 08/31/2022 5:37:38 PM PDT by fr_freak
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