Posted on 08/31/2022 2:43:49 AM PDT by Libloather
In this salesman-customer chat...it was geared to a year or mileage (I don’t remember the mileage), but I remember the 7-year warranty, and the promised rate of cost on the replacement battery. The guy even showed the battery back and how it would be removed from the bottom of the car.
My gut feeling at this point....maybe you could promise something today and maybe up to two years...on cost. But I don’t see how you could sign your name and say in seven years....this event would still be at x-amount.
I liked the vehicle...but this e-car talk leaves too questions lingering. I also got the impression that you absolutely had to return to the dealer for this battery replacement. It was not something that you could order and do yourself in the home garage.
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I used to have a 1986 Ranger, V6 2WD extended cab.
I put 296,000+ miles on it before I traded it in.
It was still running fine - I just got a little tired of it.
But to tell the truth - I was getting a little paranoid that
it might - inexplicably - drop dead at any moment.
No rational reason for that paranoia, though.
So I just figured 'it was time' and traded it for a new GMC Seirra
4x4 350V8 extended cab short bed - which was another great truck.
These days, however, I have no idea what new vehicle may be
worth the 'risk' / price.
30k. How many D Cells will that buy?? Just use them.
...or Saturn, or Oldsmobile...
At least with an internal combustion engine car, you could rebuild an engine. With an electric vehicle, the custom parts would cost a fortune.
Yet you can take ANY 1904 car out for a drive with today’s gasoline.
Using the “Fast Charge” or Opportunity Charger cuts the battery life in half.
The problem is that the battery technology (particularly its chemistry) is rapidly evolving, so once a new technology comes along, the old battery technologies get discarded.
The problem then becomes that the newer batteries cannot always be ‘dropped in’ in place of the older batteries as they often require different charging procedures and safety systems (which means expensive re-engineering and testing) - hence you wind in this situation, where an older battery was around, but a bidding war drove up its price.
That’s why one ALWAYS has to get rid of an EV within 10 years, as the feds require that vehicles be supported for the 10 years, but not a day longer (that applies to gasoline vehicles also).
Lobby for a law that a used EV cannot be sold unless a new battery is installed.
That will put a stop to this nonsense.
It won’t be long before it will cost $30,000 to fill up my truck with gas.
>> Using the “Fast Charge” or Opportunity Charger cuts the battery life in half.<<
Millionaires won’t care, they’ll just buy a new Tesla.
But this is a deal killer for Joe Sixpack, because it means no road trips.
And mass emergency evacuations will be a nightmare, when many EVs go flat between charging stations.
I’m thinking my 2016 Tacoma looks better every day.
“...this is a deal killer for Joe Sixpack, because it means no road trips.”
This is what the smarter-than-you eco-whackos want: No mobility for the masses. No ability to get out and enjoy the world (that’s reserved for your betters, serf).
And to stop anybody, just turn off their ability to get a recharge away from home.
It would be impossible, for example, to drive an EV out of California if you were on their dissident list.
In a gas or diesel car, you can pack enough Jerry cans to drive a thousand miles non-stop.
I love 16 Tacoma.
This week I will have to take it in for service. The first time in about a year.
I’m in no shape to do much to it.
Labor Day weekend I should find all of the CJ7 heater parts and get it put together.
Maybe next pay period I can get the suspension kit for the long sitting Willys jeep. With the body tub off, that should be fairly easy.
My medical misadventure in January has me hampered a lot. Insurance did a lot but only goes so far.
Besides I have nowhere really to go.
(Try the high-tide salt-water immersion test with an EV)
“Killing a Toyota Part 1 | Top Gear | BBC”
[Hi-Lux = Tacoma]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnWKz7Cthkk&ab_channel=TopGear
See 56.
We have bought several used Prius hybrids from a particular dealer in our area. He is an expert in hybrid technology
Many people don’t realize (nor will a dealership tell you) that the big battery is made up of many smaller cells which can be replaced individually at a much lower cost...you only need replace the cells that have gone bad.
For us these cars are gold. Cheap aquisition, low cost to operate and they reliably go over 300,000 miles if you take care of them
A good shade tree mechanic could get it done for $29,000.
30k can buy an ICE vehicle that will last and you can replace the battery yourself.
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