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'Ailing' Putin is flailing over his war strategy and torn between using nuclear weapons or admitting defeat and handing back invaded Ukrainian regions, claims Telegram channel
Daily Mail ^ | 8/21/2022 | Will Stewart

Posted on 08/21/2022 12:20:20 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

An ailing Vladimir Putin is flailing over his war strategy, torn between using nuclear weapons and accepting defeat and handing back Ukrainian regions invaded by his forces, a Telegram channel claims.

Amid fresh concerns over his health, his security officials have bluntly told the warmonger president that he has run out of 'good' options.

This comes as the death toll in the Russian armed forces plus separatist fighters and pro-Putin private armies has reached almost 65,000, said General SVR Telegram channel, an opposition source offering 'insider' information which the Kremlin is 'seeking to shut down'.

There is 'despondency' among Putin’s senior entourage that he had privately raised the 'extreme' option with 'top aides” of a 'goodwill' to cede newly invaded territories to Ukraine.

At the same time, there is a warning from his defence chiefs that a Ukrainian military counter strike is likely to be 'effective'.

Such an outcome would threaten his presidency, being seen as a humbling, crushing defeat.

But Putin’s leading officials are also said to be braced for a 'sharp deterioration' in his medical condition.

'With a high degree of probability, we can say that soon the president will not be able to personally hold meetings and participate in large events,' said the channel, which has long asserted the he suffers from cancer and other serious medical problems.

Putin’s absence will be explained as due to a return of the Covid pandemic, it was alleged.

In recent meetings with his security and defence aides, claimed General SVR, 'various options were discussed, from the possibility of mobilising and using tactical nuclear weapons, to opening a second front in a third country, and, finally, to "gestures of good will" with the return of the occupied territories of Kherson, Zaporizhzhia and Kharkiv regions to Ukraine.'

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To: marcusmaximus

Really. He is “torn”. Between losing and nuking...no other options....hmmmm.....this whole wars’ reporting is just about all phony news....difficult to decide on how to solve it when most of the information is bogus.


21 posted on 08/21/2022 12:42:43 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: UNGN

Brave Ukraine has Won! Its time to ring the church bells of Victory. Russia is ready to throw in the towel and admit defeat at the hands of brilliant leadership of President Zelensky and the Ukraine People! Watch as Russian troops withdraw and go home. They are beaten! Just a question of time before all of Ukraine is liberated and the re-building can start. In days, Putin will be pulled from power or dead and Russia can at least become a true democracy like Ukraine! NATO can now expand to include Japan, South Korea and Taiwan Too.


22 posted on 08/21/2022 12:43:12 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: escapefromboston
Everyone that might take over from Putin is way worse.

None of them have considered that possibility.

23 posted on 08/21/2022 12:43:30 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

As Russia falls, Turkey rises, and they are going to be a big big problem down the road.


24 posted on 08/21/2022 12:44:05 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Skywise

The point of the article is to keep the restive populations of US/NATO supportive of a war that is a disaster for the West and Ukraine. The content is likely pure MI6. The daily shredding of the UFA and daily gains by the Russians in highly fortified areas must not become apparent to the public before the US mid-terms. The UK and EU countries “leadership” are also hoping to buy time because they see that if the public knew the truth of the US/NATO war in Ukraine, the existing political order in EU countries probably would be overthrown.

The Russians aren’t close to losing. They are moving slowly and methodically to minimize their own and civilian losses. The UFA is close to finished in the Donbass. When that happens, the pace of the SMO will accelerate.


25 posted on 08/21/2022 12:44:41 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: McGruff

None of Putin’s successors want to inherit his war. And the oligarchs want it ended.


26 posted on 08/21/2022 12:46:27 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

The Daily Mail. Well then, it’s *got* to be true. 😂😂😂

Lovely spam. Wonderful spam.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mBcY3W5WgNU


27 posted on 08/21/2022 12:47:18 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: McGruff; escapefromboston
None of them have considered that possibility.

They haven’t been instructed to do so.

At least not yet.

28 posted on 08/21/2022 12:49:56 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: marcusmaximus

Only the Western/US/EU/UK propaganda saga story of Putin’s 52nd health demise.........

Good frakin’ grief.

All the West/US/EU/UK have left is propaganda cause nothing else is working in the destruction of Ukraine and the Ukrainian military and its capabilities.

End is near tho. Bet.


29 posted on 08/21/2022 12:52:04 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

3 weeks until Putin’s referendums in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia...


30 posted on 08/21/2022 12:54:45 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

It is CERTAIN they would use nukes before withdrawing.

Take that to the bank.


31 posted on 08/21/2022 12:55:08 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

WTH is a ZEEPER????


32 posted on 08/21/2022 12:55:09 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: marcusmaximus

Ailing Putin!! The media are such drama queens. He’ll probably outlive them all.


33 posted on 08/21/2022 12:57:10 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: marcusmaximus

More like 3 weeks till Ukraine utterly fails......


34 posted on 08/21/2022 12:58:49 PM PDT by cranked
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

With all the health problems that have been attributed to Putin, I thought he would be dead by now....


35 posted on 08/21/2022 12:59:05 PM PDT by srmanuel (C)
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To: Mariner

Patrushev won’t let Putin use nukes.


36 posted on 08/21/2022 1:00:04 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: cranked

Putin won’t cancel his Sept 11th referendums, will he?


37 posted on 08/21/2022 1:01:07 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: srmanuel

“He’s been dying of the same heart attack for twenty years.”


38 posted on 08/21/2022 1:01:24 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: marcusmaximus

Ukraine still winning?


39 posted on 08/21/2022 1:01:49 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

Putin won’t cancel his Sept 11th referendums because he is stronk like bull.


40 posted on 08/21/2022 1:03:02 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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