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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Except that it DID work magnificently for me, my family, and a number of friends.

Did Pfizer fund this bogus study ?


3 posted on 08/18/2022 8:53:29 AM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: BrexitBen

Funny..seemed to work just fine...in states in India.


10 posted on 08/18/2022 9:00:22 AM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: BrexitBen
Except that it DID work magnificently for me, my family, and a number of friends.

I'm now 68, have had Type II for nearly ten years.

Last February, I caught Covid for the second time, this time it was bad. I lost 30 pounds in the week before I went to the doctor.

He prescribed for me a regimen of four prescriptions, to include IVM and HCQ. I was back at work, albeit still weak, the following Monday.

These attempts to downplay the success of IVM is disgusting.

18 posted on 08/18/2022 9:12:01 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: BrexitBen

“Except that it DID work magnificently for me, my family, and a number of friends.”

With a 99% or more survival rate, it would take a trial involving many thousands to collect meaningful data. If you took 500 people, and expect 495-499 to survive doing nothing, then how many would it take to get a statistically meaningful number?

That said, NO SCIENTIFIC STUDY means squat UNTIL you read how the study was constructed. For example, a recent study said eating grapes would add 5 years to your life...but it was done on mice, not humans. And involved freeze-dried extracts, not grapes. AND it was funded by a grape growers association:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAEV-GH6UGw


49 posted on 08/18/2022 9:45:50 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: BrexitBen; ButThreeLeftsDo

Here is what they found:

“The adjusted odds ratio for a primary event was 0.84 (95% confidence interval [CI], 0.66 to 1.09; P=0.19) with metformin, 1.05 (95% CI, 0.76 to 1.45; P=0.78) with ivermectin, and 0.94 (95% CI, 0.66 to 1.36; P=0.75) with fluvoxamine. In prespecified secondary analyses, the adjusted odds ratio for emergency department visit, hospitalization, or death was 0.58 (95% CI, 0.35 to 0.94) with metformin, 1.39 (95% CI, 0.72 to 2.69) with ivermectin, and 1.17 (95% CI, 0.57 to 2.40) with fluvoxamine. The adjusted odds ratio for hospitalization or death was 0.47 (95% CI, 0.20 to 1.11) with metformin, 0.73 (95% CI, 0.19 to 2.77) with ivermectin, and 1.11 (95% CI, 0.33 to 3.76) with fluvoxamine.”

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2201662

Now, what do we know about confidence intervals:

“If the confidence interval crosses 1 (e.g. 95%CI 0.9-1.1) this implies there is no difference between arms of the study.” IOW, when the confidence interval crosses one, you don’t actually know ANYTHING.

So to repeat,, what did they find out about Ivermectin treatment?

“The adjusted odds ratio for hospitalization or death was...0.73 (95% CI, 0.19 to 2.77) with ivermectin”

The interval is 0.19 to 2.77. IOW, THEY DON’T KNOW JACK SHIT!

A proper summary would be, “We didn’t have enough numbers to learn anything from this experiment, so you might as well toss this in the trash!”

Please notice EVERY CONFIDENCE LEVEL crossed one, and crossed it GROSSLY: “0.19 to 2.77”!


55 posted on 08/18/2022 9:56:57 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: BrexitBen

“Except that it DID work magnificently for me, my family, and a number of friends.”

Me, too.

I bought another five-day regimen last week, and was surprised that the dosage was higher than it was a year ago. The pharmacist said the newer strains need higher doses. The current strain isn’t as dangerous, but may be more contagious.


58 posted on 08/18/2022 10:00:51 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Sometimes when you get to where you're supposed to be, it's too soon.)
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To: BrexitBen

Yeah....there’s that. I just don’t trust them any more. They have shown to be willing to do and say anything.


66 posted on 08/18/2022 10:16:42 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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Repositioning Ivermectin for Covid-19 treatment: Molecular mechanisms of action against SARS-CoV-2 replication

...In summary, the collective review of recent efforts suggests that IVM has a prophylactic effect and would be a strong candidate for clinical trials to treat SARS-CoV-2.

72 posted on 08/18/2022 10:49:41 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: BrexitBen

I wouldn’t doubt that Pfizer funded this piece of drivel.

Authored by their top research director, Bea Ess.


81 posted on 08/18/2022 11:28:41 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: BrexitBen

“Did Pfizer fund this bogus study ?”

Read the disclosures. NIH grants funded many of the study participants. They even disclose who provided “ivermevtin placebos”

So the sourced placebos, and were funded by Fauci’s NIH.

This is from the paper, please check it yourself.

The source of much covid propaganda to coerce vaccine uptake is not the best source of funding to study ivermectin, in my opinion.

Since they admittedly had ivermectin placebos, they may have simply only used placebos to get a result preferred by Fauci and his NIH.

That’s why you don’t politicize medicine.

I think everyone should be able to choose to use ivermectin, or the vax if they wish.


86 posted on 08/18/2022 11:57:17 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: BrexitBen

“Except that it DID work magnificently for me, my family, and a number of friends.”

I personally know almost a dozen who tested positive and were very ill with the original covid who QUICKLY recovered with the triad of iver, hydroxy and zith in kits that i supplied ... locals could pick up the kits ASAP ... others had them on hand in advance, and still others had their kits since overnight express ...


90 posted on 08/18/2022 12:30:33 PM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: BrexitBen

Same here. I have a supply from Mexico.


91 posted on 08/18/2022 12:37:50 PM PDT by bobcat62
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To: BrexitBen

It is not effective for many things but will knock out the WuFlu. It won’t, however, power our EV.


98 posted on 08/18/2022 2:05:42 PM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe he)
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To: BrexitBen

IVM Worked for me & my family. With zinc, vitamin c,d


102 posted on 08/18/2022 4:10:23 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: BrexitBen
It also worked very well for my family and the difference is in the data, if you get Ivermectin early it helps , if not early, well nothing may help
105 posted on 08/19/2022 4:18:07 PM PDT by TECTopcat
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