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To: MtnClimber

Once in a while I see a soundbite of a retired FBI agent answering with speculation about what happened.

But do any FReepers know a current or retired agent or employee willing to speak anonymously to them and tell us: Are 90% of agents dirty and Trump haters who are selling us to the BLM/Chinese Communist/Woke Dems? Or the other way around?
Anyone, please?


3 posted on 08/17/2022 4:56:11 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: frank ballenger
Are 90% of agents dirty and Trump haters . . .

I think your focus is too broad for the agents. They are bureaucrats. Their focus is: How do I advance in the bureaucracy?

If that means - because that's what the top levels want - politicizing their actions, including making blatantly unConstitutional raids on political opponents, then that's what they do. The fact that benefits the Chinese is not a factor. Hating Trump is too high a motivation. They don't care who the political overlords pick as a target. They care what advances their careers.

Under Administrations from both parties, agents who overstep their Constitutional limits are promoted, and covered in the event of wrongdoing. Rudy Ridge was under Bush I. Waco was under Clinton. None of the agents involved paid any penalty. And it wasn't required that they hate Randy Weaver or David Koresh, just that they do what the overlords ordered.

Conversely, if an agent - at any level - bucks the political overlords, they're out on their ass so fast that the entire story can be denied.

Does that make them "dirty?" I think so, because their oath is not to the political overlords, but to the Constitution. That's actually a bigger problem, because if they are motivated by hatred for an individual, then other individuals are not (necessarily) at risk. But if they are motivated solely by career advancement, then anyone who the political overlords choose to target is at risk.
8 posted on 08/17/2022 5:12:34 PM PDT by Phlyer
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To: frank ballenger

Dan Bongino (former NYPD and former Secret Service) who went through FBI training has been on a tear against FBI all the way down to field agents who should know better.


11 posted on 08/17/2022 5:35:27 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: frank ballenger
Are 90% of agents dirty and Trump haters who are selling us to the BLM/Chinese Communist/Woke Dems?

It's probably 99%. Are they always doing bad things? No. They do a lot of useful stuff. Forsenics stuff they do in their labs. They go after the cartels (but isn't that DEA territory?).

A lot of sadistic criminals out there and they bust heads and we're not missing them.

But yeah. The FBI is dirty. They're going after anyone who threatens the government in DC (that means Democrats).

19 posted on 08/17/2022 6:05:47 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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