Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

To: max americana
It was called the correct term “war of Northern Aggression”. The South rightfully wanted to secede. If your daughter or son wanted to leave the house and venture out, why stop them?

Extending the metaphor, if your daughter or son shot at you on their way out of the house, should they be surprised if you shot back? What if they weren't "venturing out" but moving into the guest house out back, again while shooting at you from the guest house? Is it your fault for "starting the war" by shooting back?

While Lincoln was still President-elect and touring through supposedly "neutral" but slave-supporting Delaware trying to calm the storm the Dims were brewing, the people of Delaware tried to kill Lincoln multiple times. Keep in mind that the state of Delaware surrounds DC on 3/4ths of the perimeter with confederate Virginia on the rest of the perimeter. That doesn't sound like "venturing" out to me.

It was still-in-office Dim president Buchanan who ordered federal troops to not leave federal forts that were in (or on the coast of) confederate land (most notably Fort Sumter at Charleston). It was Dim leaders of the new confederacy who ordered the attack on supply ships to Fort Sumter (Dim leaders of the confederacy sieging a fort that still had a Dim commander-in-chief). It was Dim President Jefferson Davis of the CSA who ordered an attack directly on Fort Sumter (ironically Dim Buchanan was still Prez of the USA at the time of the order, but by the time the attack was implemented Lincoln was Prez).

But, hey, call it "northern aggression" if it makes you feel better. I love my home state of Alabama, but the south started the civil war.

29 posted on 08/01/2022 9:25:00 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies ]


To: Tell It Right

Keep in mind that the state of Delaware surrounds DC on 3/4ths of the perimeter with confederate Virginia on the rest of the perimeter.

Would that be Maryland spelled as Delaware??


49 posted on 08/01/2022 9:44:39 AM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies ]

To: Tell It Right

I believe you mean maryland not delaware


62 posted on 08/01/2022 9:51:58 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies ]

To: Tell It Right
Extending the metaphor, if your daughter or son shot at you on their way out of the house, should they be surprised if you shot back?

Tell it right. You are ignoring the fact that daddy pulled the gun first and acted like he was going to shoot them with it.

Of course the smart thing to do was shoot first with daddy aiming a gun at you.

The "gun" was the fleet of warships Lincoln sent to attack them at Charleston. Do you not know about the warships? Do you not know that Lincoln pulled the gun first?

It was still-in-office Dim president Buchanan who ordered federal troops to not leave federal forts that were in (or on the coast of) confederate land (most notably Fort Sumter at Charleston).

Major Anderson was stationed in Fort Moultrie, not Fort Sumter. Fort Sumter was not even finished and still had workmen there building structures to make it into a fort.

Anderson violently seized it in the middle of the night while destroying and burning everything useful at fort Moultrie. He committed the first belligerent act of the war.

And this after Secretary of War John Floyd had for months been telling the people of South Carolina that all the forts would be turned over to them.

But, hey, call it "northern aggression" if it makes you feel better.

It's the more accurate term. The North did indeed start the hostilities first. It was not a "Civil War" because no effort was made to take over the existing government, the only effort was to gain independence from it.

I love my home state of Alabama, but the south started the civil war.

I am not from any of the Southern states, and my family has no connection to the South. They did not arrive in this country until around 1900 and they did not settle in any of the Southern states.

Therefore I can be objective.

94 posted on 08/01/2022 10:23:50 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies ]

To: Tell It Right
While Lincoln was still President-elect and touring through supposedly "neutral" but slave-supporting Delaware trying to calm the storm the Dims were brewing, the people of Delaware tried to kill Lincoln multiple times. Keep in mind that the state of Delaware surrounds DC on 3/4ths of the perimeter with confederate Virginia on the rest of the perimeter.

Uh, the closest part of Delaware is a mere 60 miles away from DC as the crow flies, with a many miles-wide Bay in between:


213 posted on 08/01/2022 2:15:15 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Liz Cheney, Trump’s personal Javert..."--Michael Anton)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies ]

To: Tell It Right
Extending the metaphor, if your daughter or son shot at you on their way out of the house, should they be surprised if you shot back? What if they weren't "venturing out" but moving into the guest house out back, again while shooting at you from the guest house? Is it your fault for "starting the war" by shooting back?

If you're referring to SC here, a better analogy would be that you the parent have been staying in your kids' guest house, and they're trying to push you out and back to your own house.


While Lincoln was still President-elect and touring through supposedly "neutral" but slave-supporting Delaware trying to calm the storm the Dims were brewing, the people of Delaware tried to kill Lincoln multiple times. Keep in mind that the state of Delaware surrounds DC on 3/4ths of the perimeter with confederate Virginia on the rest of the perimeter. That doesn't sound like "venturing" out to me.

Um, I'm pretty sure Maryland is next to DC/Virginia, not Delaware. They're a little further out.
394 posted on 08/02/2022 7:59:03 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson