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To: bitt

Just like Winston’s confession at the end of 1984. Why do fascists always want their victims to apologize before they’re executed? It seems like executing them would be enough.


13 posted on 07/24/2022 1:25:25 PM PDT by Spok (Don’t pee down my leg and tell me it’s raining.)
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To: Spok

Apologizing...is an admission. The oppressors need it so they can call their following criminal acts “justice.”


18 posted on 07/24/2022 1:30:52 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Spok

Just like Winston’s confession at the end of 1984. Why do fascists always want their victims to apologize before they’re executed? It seems like executing them would be enough.

In 1984, O’Brian explains to Winston that the confession to the crime removes the possibility of the person being executed being seen as a martyr. And thru torture, the confessions the part gets are true confessions.

“’The first thing for you to understand is that in this place there are no martyrdoms. You have read of the religious persecutions of the past. In the Middle Ages there was the Inquisitlon. It was a failure. It set out to eradicate heresy, and ended by perpetuating it. For every heretic it burned at the stake, thousands of others rose up. Why was that? Because the Inquisition killed its enemies in the open, and killed them while they were still unrepentant: in fact, it killed them because they were unrepentant. Men were dying because they would not abandon their true beliefs. Naturally all the glory belonged to the victim and all the shame to the Inquisitor who burned him. Later, in the twentieth century, there were the totalitarians, as they were called. There were the German Nazis and the Russian Communists. The Russians persecuted heresy more cruelly than the Inquisition had done. And they imagined that they had learned from the mistakes of the past; they knew, at any rate, that one must not make martyrs. Before they exposed their victims to public trial, they deliberately set themselves to destroy their dignity. They wore them down by torture and solitude until they were despicable, cringing wretches, confessing whatever was put into their mouths, covering themselves with abuse, accusing and sheltering behind one another, whimpering for mercy. And yet after only a few years the same thing had happened over again. The dead men had become martyrs and their degradation was forgotten. Once again, why was it? In the first place, because the confessions that they had made were obviously extorted and untrue. We do not make mistakes of that kind. All the confessions that are uttered here are true. We make them true. And above all we do not allow the dead to rise up against us. You must stop imagining that posterity will vindicate you, Winston. Posterity will never hear of you. You will be lifted clean out from the stream of history.”
— 1984


30 posted on 07/24/2022 2:45:30 PM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: Spok

They have their own prescription.

E S & D


43 posted on 07/24/2022 5:08:33 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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