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Electrical engineers on the brink of extinction threaten entire tech ecosystems
The Register ^ | 18 July 2022 | Rupert Goodwins

Posted on 07/19/2022 10:23:31 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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1 posted on 07/19/2022 10:23:31 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 07/19/2022 10:23:52 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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EE’s design and sign off on the electrical design for all architectural, oil patch and chemical plant projects.

Taking the back off a wireless isn’t training for a building electrical design

(EE’s wear slide rules hanging from their belts)


3 posted on 07/19/2022 10:28:44 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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All of these professions run in cycles.
for a time, there’s a shortage.
Then salaries go up, attract new folks.
Kids take it up in school.
then over saturation because a new way is found, or OFF SHORING
Then the pay is crap, so nobody studies it.
Then the cylce begins again.

Remember when Nurses were over-worked, underpaid and treated like crap? Ask any Nurse over 60, they’ll tell you.

Now good money paid for marginally tained folks, Nursing schools are packed, and the push for foreign workers to slow the salary increases is everywhere.


4 posted on 07/19/2022 10:30:30 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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An EE degree requires a lot of hard work. It is much easier and more fun to go with Gender Studies. Think of how many protests one would miss or chances to become offended if they were having to study all the time.


5 posted on 07/19/2022 10:30:49 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Joe Biden, VOTUS. Vegetable of the United States.)
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go to college, take the easiest course, party, party, party, then get out to be a teacher and work half the year and never be fired.....

why take the hard courses?...

this country increasingly does not reward hard learning and hard work.

6 posted on 07/19/2022 10:33:09 AM PDT by cherry (;)
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7 posted on 07/19/2022 10:33:18 AM PDT by Paladin2
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That’s exactly right. Presumably there are still physics majors, who could be repurposed to EE in a pinch. The dominance of CS over EE probably reflects the software (versus hardware) focus of the tech sector right now:


8 posted on 07/19/2022 10:34:26 AM PDT by maro (MAGA!)
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Yup, physics/math types are pretty much already EE's to some degree...


9 posted on 07/19/2022 10:37:41 AM PDT by Bobalu (A dem asked what side I was for in Ukraine, I said "I'm against the commies" -- He got real pissed!)
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To: bert

“Taking the back off a wireless isn’t training for a building electrical design”

That was referring to post-war times and sparking an interest.


10 posted on 07/19/2022 10:38:32 AM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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End the H-1B visa. Stop it. That program undermines US STEM talent like no other. Are you listening Mike Lee?


11 posted on 07/19/2022 10:40:50 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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Go back to about the early 80’s and those curves were just the opposite. Old school EE’s could seeing a flip-flop but there were no jobs for that anymore, so they had to learn to code.

Some areas of EE such as RF design, power conversion, and power systems are flourishing. Supply and demand, but now on a global basis.


12 posted on 07/19/2022 10:45:05 AM PDT by bigbob (z)
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Intel undermined itself by going H1B.


13 posted on 07/19/2022 10:47:04 AM PDT by bobcat62
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Course 6 (electrical engineering and computer science) is the largest undergraduate department at MIT.

But I don’t know how many students are in electrical engineering (Course 6-1) vs. the various computer science majors. Does anyone here know?


14 posted on 07/19/2022 10:47:20 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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Yup - I switched from my EE major to Computer Engineering in my sophomore year in the late ‘80s - the lower division requirements back then at my university were nearly identical so it was an easy switch. It was also easy enough to see which way the wind was blowing for the future of each field back then.


15 posted on 07/19/2022 10:47:57 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Intel undermined itself by going H1B.

"hi" tech made their curry, now eat it.

16 posted on 07/19/2022 10:48:09 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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Exactly! Why should someone work hard in college and then probably grad school for a job that gets pulled out from under you and given to an H1-B or shipped to India?


17 posted on 07/19/2022 10:53:45 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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Even worse, the grade inflation such that the majority of EE graduates probably should not have. A grade of ‘C’ today is yesterday’s ‘F’, and many EEs graduate with a ‘C’ these days: ‘C’ get degrees. When I was teaching engineering courses I was shocked by how terrible the grades were of the EE students.


18 posted on 07/19/2022 10:59:32 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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If you are that talented go to medical school. They have “H-1B’d” that to death yet.


19 posted on 07/19/2022 10:59:51 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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2-oh and go.


20 posted on 07/19/2022 11:00:39 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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