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Obviously you need help with the point. Ukraine lost the war long ago...as in it became unwinnable almost from the beginning. If you actually follow the events on the ground, the Russians have been slowly and methodically destroying a largely defenseless UFA. The Biden administration through Zelensky, who fantasizes about his “Million Man March/Army”, is using the men in the UFA as cannon fodder in the belief that fighting to the last Ukrainian will “weaken” Russia. It won’t, any more than the sanctions have worked. Seversk has fallen, and Bakhmut is next. People like you treat this like it’s a sports event. You mindlessly slurp up propaganda and start waiving pom poms for your side. In the meantime, real people are losing their lives for nothing more than the sociopathic narcissism of the Neocons in the Biden administration, the WEF, and NATO.


31 posted on 07/14/2022 7:26:33 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: achilles2000
Obviously you need help with the point. Ukraine lost the war long ago...as in it became unwinnable almost from the beginning. If you actually follow the events on the ground, the Russians have been slowly and methodically destroying a largely defenseless UFA

Thanks armchair general. So a massive delivery of HIMARS, jets, and tanks would not accomplish anything? Surprise, actual military analysts disagree.

Analysts: Ukraine Needs U.S. Aircraft; U.S. Needs to Stop Self-Deterring

The weapons the U.S. and NATO have been providing Ukraine are not enough to reverse Russia’s invasion, and the process of providing F-16s from U.S. stocks should begin as soon as possible, analysts said in an AFA Mitchell Institute online seminar.

Panelists said Ukraine’s best chance for beating back Russia’s advances will come through air-launched standoff missile strikes on Russian rear areas and supply lines, as well as command and control centers and airpower working in concert with Ukrainian ground forces.

Retired Lt. Gen. David A. Deptula, dean of AFA’s Mitchell Institute of Aerospace Studies, said the Russia-Ukraine war has effectively been ongoing since 2014 and will not likely be over quickly, so “there’s time” to provide Ukraine with F-16s and train some of its experienced pilots to fly them.

Members of the panel said that in the meantime, the U.S. could provide MQ-1C Gray Eagles or even MQ-9 Reapers to give Ukraine more air strike capability and persistent watch over the battlefield for target spotting functions and “actionable intelligence,” Deptula said.

Absent fresh airpower, though, panelists said the weapons being supplied to Ukraine—such as artillery—don’t deliver a decisive capability and engage the Russians “at their own game,” he added.

To go on the offensive, the Ukrainians need to strike Russia’s rear areas, Farkas said, and “not just defend but re-seize their territory.” The U.S. should also put pressure on Israel to provide Ukraine with its Iron Dome air defense systems, she said.

https://www.airforcemag.com/ukraine-needs-u-s-aircraft-f-16s-u-s-needs-to-stop-self-deterring/

33 posted on 07/14/2022 7:37:57 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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