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To: MercyFlush; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Zhang Fei; ought-six; PIF; marcusmaximus; alexander_busek; blam; ...

Good news that grain is moving again. However, I get the impression that the ships are moving by canals and river. “Having partially restored the export of agricultural products by river, Ukraine is thereby helping to solve the world crisis - famine.” Does this mean Turkey has not approved shipping through their straits? Also, I imagine mine sweepers would be needed even if Russia would refrain from bombing food shipping. I don’tknow where the rivers would come out in the ocean, but I imagine the Mediterranean route is closer to the poor couontries that need the food the most.


15 posted on 07/11/2022 11:46:27 PM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority)
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To: gleeaikin
Does this mean Turkey has not approved shipping through their straits?

No, it has NOTHING to do with any putative restriction of the Bosporus by Turkey pertaining to grain shipments! Please don't open that "can of worms!"

The relevant treaties granting Turkey (or anyone else, for that matter) the right to stop, inspect, or close traffic through such straits pertains only to warships, cargo ships carrying armaments, and the like - not to food shipments.

Regards,

18 posted on 07/12/2022 3:36:33 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: gleeaikin

The problem with farming grain and vegetables in Ukraine is that the the high cost of transportation now leaves the farmer with a meager $10 profit - meaning most will not plant grain in the fall and vegetable farmers will continue to dump any excesses.

So what get shipped this year is all there is, until transportation costs fall back to prewar levels.


21 posted on 07/12/2022 4:18:23 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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