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To: ought-six; hillarys cankles
I think you are both right to a great extent.

But we shouldn't kid ourselves that we aren't losing a great deal by ceding the humanities to the kooks. The Founders were familiar with Cicero, Locke, Montesquieu, and some probably the Scholastics, Plato and Aristotle in summary or translation.

Can you understand the Declaration without Locke? Locke without Hobbes? Hobbes without Machiavelli? Machiavelli without the Scholastics and Aristotle? The whole intellectual underpinning of our civilization is being destroyed.

We are close to having ceded what Lenin called the "commanding heights" of our political economy to a corporate-fascist state. Ceding the "commanding heights" of our intellectual life to these commie kooks isn't going to make the fight against the political left and their corporate allies any easier.

13 posted on 07/07/2022 6:29:49 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15

“Can you understand the Declaration without Locke? Locke without Hobbes? Hobbes without Machiavelli? Machiavelli without the Scholastics and Aristotle? The whole intellectual underpinning of our civilization is being destroyed.”

Excellent and insightful comment - this is truly the basis of stealing our heritage through “woke” academic incrementalism.


23 posted on 07/07/2022 7:10:31 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't. )
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To: pierrem15

You are a very perceptive individual.

One cannot defend what one cannot define.

L


26 posted on 07/07/2022 7:16:47 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: pierrem15

My 2nd son (conservative) graduated from a liberal (aren’t they all) public university in 2020. He studied accounting which is hard to be “woke” and minored in philosophy as he said it was still the classics and therefore hard to ruin.


27 posted on 07/07/2022 7:22:52 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: pierrem15

Well said.


41 posted on 07/07/2022 8:07:42 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: ought-six; hillarys cankles

One thing I would add: In the Federalist, they argue that the political science on which the Constitution is founded is in fact more knowable than mathematics or the physics, since those can be lost, but the study of human passions always teaches the same lessons.


51 posted on 07/08/2022 11:55:51 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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