Scratch them from my list. I am a backpacking hiker so a potential customer. If they don’t take a position I don’t care what their position is. If they take a side it usually is the other side from the one I am on.
I’m on the search for a new technical shell, and had narrowed it down to Patagonia and Helly Hansen. Helly for the win now. I kind of appreciated it when companies help me make decisions.