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To: Red Badger

Slavery didn’t end on Juneteenth. There were at least three slave states that stayed in the Union, and slavery didn’t end there until the 13th Amendment took effect on December 31, 1865.

But, why let facts interfere with the racist narrative?


32 posted on 06/16/2022 8:39:35 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: TBP
There were at least three slave states that stayed in the Union . . .

Actually five: Missouri, Kentucky, West Virginia, Maryland and Delaware.

69 posted on 06/16/2022 8:52:24 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: TBP

Another date of more importance than what happened in Texas on June 19 was the Emancipation Proclamation signed on January 1, 1863. I can think of other civil rights milestones^ more important than June 19.

* Yes, I know some were frauds.

Several months ago a poster on another board asked what would be the most appropriator things to cook for the holiday. I replied that given the holiday’s origin it should be Tex-Mex.


113 posted on 06/16/2022 9:35:03 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: TBP
Actually it seems that Dec. 6, 1865, was when the 13th amendment was ratified. The slave states of Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, and Delaware did not secede so they were not covered by the Emancipation Proclamation. West Virginia became a state in 1863 with slavery (with not a whole lot of slaves and with a plan for gradual emancipation). Tennessee and portions of some other Confederate states were also exempted from the Emancipation Proclamation.

There were about 4 million black people in the US in 1860, about 10% of which were already free. By June 19, 1865, most of the slaves had learned of the end of the war and that they were no longer required to work for their former owners. Word got to Texas late but maybe a few hundred black people in Galveston learned about the end of the war on June 19, 1865, so to make that the grand celebration of freedom seems to be making a mountain out of a molehill.

Once Lee surrendered on April 9, 1865, Southern whites appear to have recognized that the game was up (Jefferson Davis excepted). I read of a lawsuit once concerning someone in Mississippi who had learned of Lee's surrender before anyone else in that locality and went to spend his Confederate money right away. He was found guilty of fraud--the storekeeper would not have accepted the money if he had known about Lee's surrender.

159 posted on 06/16/2022 4:17:50 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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