Posted on 06/12/2022 5:05:12 PM PDT by daniel1212
Youtube channel “Sub Brief” did a breakdown two weeks ago. Apparently both fathometers were on the blink.
https://youtu.be/IPr7Yrwgly4?t=1585
As usual, in matters such as these, there were many mistakes at many levels. But the OOD's failure to do the safe thing and reduce speed etc...while aware of shallower-than-expected soundings, was the last chance to possibly avoid submerged grounding. I'm wondering if the ship's problems with sensing equipment affected the OOD's judgment. Whatever, safe action should have been taken regardless of other considerations. I was taught to generally believe and act on even suspect indication, when it pointed to danger.
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In days long past now they were Hyman Rickover’s ships and not the Navy’s. That fact was clearly understood by all when I was on active duty. I know he personally interviewed every officer before they were accepted to the nuclear program and every officer again, at least before they took command of one of his ships.
They were Replicators from another galaxy. The SG-1 team fought them. This running aground is a cover story....
This never happened to the Seaview. The only time they were damaged was when a sea monster attacked.... : )
C0, OX, OOD, DIVE, sonar, bedbugs, an engineering crew that doesnt know the diff between cooking oil and shaft lube oil, a trim motor controller that glowed red and smoked, comsub 5, at least they didn’t blame the cooks.
This is what happens when you turn your fighting forces into a social experiment.
Back in the day, Bubblehead command didn’t have a lot of tolerance on watch when underway. No one was allowed “ independent ops” at sea. They was no “ individuality
“In days long past now they were Hyman Rickover’s ships and not the Navy’s. That fact was clearly understood by all when I was on active duty. “
When did you serve? I served 68-74 and didn’t have that feeling.
Perfection for us was having no more than one of the three watchstanders napping. We were not always perfect.
He had a standing invitation to bypass the Pentagon and testify before Congress anytime he chose. He and not the bureaucracy controlled purchasing and personnel assignments. One submarine dumped primary coolant to the bilges, and he was there the next day to fire the CO, EX, chief engineer, and engineering officer of the watch. Maybe that was something known just to the nuclear community.
I was a Navy nuke.
” He and not the bureaucracy controlled purchasing and personnel assignments.”
That’s stretch!
Yeah, back in the mid 1980s had a buddy on a certain CG that shall remain nameless. Off the coast of NC during a night passage they tracked a navigation buoy for 16 miles on radar and ran right into it. They had their orders - this heading, this speed. I guess the watch officer thought they’d just miss it, didn’t want to log a rudder order changing course from what the captain ordered. Must’ve been a good sized buoy, he said it scraped the paint all down one side...SMH
Yes indeed!
The boat's XO was not specifically mentioned in any the open posts. An XO is supposed to be the designated a$$hole so the skipper can be a moderately good guy. I have served as both and my Command Ashore tour was much harder because I did no have an XO. An XO tour is mostly a make it or break it look for suitability for Command.
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Not really. His biography was fairly clear about that. They could advise but had to consent.
Sub Safe— Rickover safety in ALL aspects underway, and... anywhere. Loss of the Thresher began this in earnest. Not SS-200 (WWII) , the nuclear Thresher. Took down 19 civilian major contractor engineers on the shake down cruise. Failed weld on a pipe normally sealed to outside pressures— and frankly pinpointed to purposeful LABOR sloppy work and slowdowns in the building of the boat. Very sad times for family who were classmates of the Thresher’s captain, and of course for all the families of the total loss of the Thresher. Perfection is the standard— not what we are seeing in this boat— bedbugs? Are they kidding. Mixed crews oh yeah that works out well— even the Israelis don’t do this afaik.
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