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Are there more non-conservatives in the U.S. than conservatives today?

Posted on 06/11/2022 9:29:56 AM PDT by A Cyrenian

Are we now a minority in this country?


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To: A Cyrenian
"A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged."

May need more muggings.

21 posted on 06/11/2022 10:02:17 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: kosciusko51

A very vocal minority gets the majority of press time


22 posted on 06/11/2022 10:09:23 AM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: Perseverando

No. Most people are conservative. The liberals want you to think they are the majority but they are not.


23 posted on 06/11/2022 10:22:32 AM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: A Cyrenian

Not even close... But the media has made them think so.


24 posted on 06/11/2022 10:27:39 AM PDT by AzNASCARfan
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To: A Cyrenian
Re: "Are we now a minority in this country?"

We have ALWAYS been a minority.

The fact that we have any influence at all is because we have the highest voter turn out (until 2020 anyway) and the most courageous rank and file activists.

25 posted on 06/11/2022 10:30:36 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: A Cyrenian

In terms of economics, no. Most people are not Socialists. They don’t want their stuff taken away. However, most people do support some level of support for working/poor people.

I think that support for Big business, especially multinational business is fading fast, even among conservatives. We have been thrown under the bus too many times.

In terms of social behavior, yes. Most people even if they are conservative have decided it’s not worth the cost to speak out if it doesn’t affect them personally.


26 posted on 06/11/2022 10:32:03 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: A Cyrenian

Depends on how you define “conservative”, but yes, and have been for a very long time. It’s not new.


27 posted on 06/11/2022 10:54:00 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Alvin Diogenes
I don't believe it. I'm old enough to remember Spiro Agnew talking about the Silent Majority. Agnew was correct, and when the right candidate came along a few years later (Reagan), the ensuing electoral landslide proved it.

Reagan won his two terms not because most Americans were conservative, but because because Carter was horribly incompetent, and Reagan's policies brought prosperity to the country, and he was charismatic, so they reelected him.

And what did we get immediately after Reagan? A much more.moderatw Republican who have a backhanded slam against Reagan by promising a "kinder, gentler" America. How could a true conservative majority manage to not nominate somebody more conservative than Bush??

28 posted on 06/11/2022 11:04:19 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Celerity

The issue is not what your philosophy is, but how effectivrly you practice it. A person with no voice in his/her LOCAL party operation that determines who goes on the primary or election ballot for each local polling place has little or no effect om the outcome.


29 posted on 06/11/2022 11:10:13 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: kosciusko51

Were Christians a minority for the first 300 years? Does that matter?

Were bolsheviks a minority during the revolution....yes too.


30 posted on 06/11/2022 11:12:45 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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To: GaryCrow

The fact that few “conservatives” still argue that Soc Sec and Medicare are not allowed by the Constitution shows that at best we have a Tory-like residue of Conservatism in place.


31 posted on 06/11/2022 11:13:17 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: A Cyrenian

There are more registered Republicans then Democrats in Florida. It used to be the other way around.


32 posted on 06/11/2022 11:13:17 AM PDT by Chgogal (If Democrats are not aborting babies they are starving them. )
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
How could a true conservative majority manage to not nominate somebody more conservative than Bush??

Because the RINO establishment isn't conservative, and they control the party (or did at the time -- hopefully Trump has changed that). Notice that Bush didn't get the landslide that Reagan did, and then he lost the second time around.

Plus, Bush (the elder) won on "Read my lips -- no new taxes", and he lost as soon as he went back on that.

Anyway, I simply do not believe that a majority of Americans think that men can get pregnant, or that drag shows are appropriate for kids, or any of the other outrageous things that the left is treating as loyalty tests.
33 posted on 06/11/2022 11:16:51 AM PDT by Alvin Diogenes
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
Christianity only took off when Constantine made it the official religion of the Roman Empire. The Bolsheviks took over by NOT following the law.

Conservatives by nature will always follow the law. And the one time conservatism was the official "religion" during the Reagan administration it was the bowlderized version of the neocons.

34 posted on 06/11/2022 11:17:18 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: Alvin Diogenes
Because the RINO establishment isn't conservative, and they control the party

They do not control who gets nominated. If they did, Reagan would never have won the nomination in 1980 because Bush, not Reagan, was the establishment favorite. Nor would Trump have been able to win the nomination in 2016 because the establishment despised him, and still does.

Anyway, I simply do not believe that a majority of Americans think that men can get pregnant, or that drag shows are appropriate for kids, or any of the other outrageous things that the left is treating as loyalty tests.

There is a truly massive middle ground between being a conservative, and supporting the radical progressive agenda items you just listed. I would agree with you that most Americans are not radical progressives, and do not support that agenda. But I disagree with you that they are majority conservative, and consistently support conservative candidates and principles.

It's possible that conservatives are the largest single faction between conservatives, moderates, and progressives. But we are not a majority.

35 posted on 06/11/2022 11:30:33 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
I do agree with you; the majority is actually what is considered moderate, not conservative.

But the Democrats are boxing themselves in with extreme positions that they are unable to extricate themselves from because they've made them into moral imperatives, enforced by purity struggle sessions and other bullying. (Someone like James Carville would love to get rid of the woke stuff in his party, but he can't.)

And I guess I exaggerated when I said that the RINO establishment controlled the party, but they are very influential, especially when a race is close.
36 posted on 06/11/2022 11:36:48 AM PDT by Alvin Diogenes
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To: A Cyrenian

Depends how you define conservative. Some divine your “conservativeness” through a bizarre and distorted filter. Some seem to measure conservatism by absolute belief in every nutcase conspiracy theory they believe. If you only consider traditional conservatism, as in family values, individual freedoms, personal accountability, strong work ethic, and general Judeo-Christian values, I think we have a majority. But it’s shrinking and being watered down.

Some Judeo-Christian traditions, like a God centered education are almost gone, but a person can be a conservative and still support secular education. A conservative can even be an agnostic or atheist, and still be a conservative.

If you whittle down the definition of conservatism to “people who think just like me”, you will always be a tiny minority.


37 posted on 06/11/2022 11:44:22 AM PDT by ETCM
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To: enumerated

Unless everyone can agree on a definition of “conservative”, this is an entirely pointless question.
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Exactly. Americans are increasingly fleeing from God and his word. That my friends is the issue. We’re are Founding Fathers Christian, staunch believers? Yes.
I maintain that to be a “ Conservative “ one must have a strong belief in Christianity. The very least of which is knowing the minimum requirements: the Ten Commandments. I am posting a Conservative’s minimum requirements:

1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.
3 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
5 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.
6 “You shall not murder.
7 “You shall not commit adultery.
8 “You shall not steal.
9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

God almighty in his wisdom issued these basic rules for mankind to flourish. Any deviation from the “ rules” results in exactly what we are seeing today.

I am troubled deeply by Freepers growing non belief, they are neither Conservatives nor Christians.


38 posted on 06/11/2022 11:53:26 AM PDT by delta7
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To: A Cyrenian

There are more non-Americans than Americans in the U.S. today. The U.S. is no longer a melting pot. It’s now the world’s septic tank.


39 posted on 06/11/2022 12:01:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't blame me, I voted for President Trump.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
How could a true conservative majority manage to not nominate somebody more conservative than Bush??

First of all, you have to rely on the candidates you have, and not on imaginary ideal candidates that don't exist.

Secondly, Bush had name recognition and had good relations with donors, politicians, and party officials.

Third, there was a feeling that Reagan had fixed things and the country could go on from their in it's usual way.

I don't think there is a solid conservative majority in the country now.

It's not like the 1960s or 1970s when it was everybody against a small radical or progressivist fringe.

But also, even a conservative country isn't always going to vote for the most conservative candidate.

That's why third party candidates, who are often more conservative than Republicans, never win.

40 posted on 06/11/2022 1:49:53 PM PDT by x
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