Posted on 06/07/2022 5:04:18 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas
Nice cut’n’paste that talks about lots of things I didn’t say.
“Contagious and infectious are synonyms”
Actually they are not. Some diseases are contagious but you have to eat or drink after an infected person or kiss them etc. Like for instance TB. The flu which is airborne is not only contagious but also infectious. Monkey pox was a poor choice to try to gin up an epidemic with. Its not going to happen.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/contagious
https://www.yourdictionary.com/infectious
I think you are confusing droplet transmission vs airborne for infectious vs contagious.
No, you don’t get TB from kissing someone who has it, or eating after him. You can get it from breathing in the patient’s respiratory droplets:
https://www.cdc.gov/tb/topic/basics/howtbspreads.htm
Monkey pox is very difficult to catch. Its not infectious. Accept it. Just like TB is not infectious. If you take minimal precautions you won’t get it. Many families with a TB infected member did not catch it by having that person eat with their own dinnerware and washing it separately. They also refrained from kissing, hugging and of course not letting the person cough in their face. That’s the difference between contagious and infectious. Its a simple theory to grasp.
Monkey pox is never going to be a problem. Forget about it.
Monkeypox is airborne as has been confirmed with dozens of studies via respiratory droplets.”
Possibly if one were inhaling another’s anus.
Pleas provide a valid reference for that opinion. Both the CDC WHO and nearly every other health organization has data on airborne respiratory transmission it’s on the WHO front page monkeypox guidance for healthcare professionals.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/07/health/monkeypox-masks-cdc.html
“In previous outbreaks, a majority of cases were reported in those who had close contact with an infected patient or animal. But in some instances, airborne transmission was the only explanation for the infections.”
Believe what makes you feel better but the science is clear just like smallpox ,it’s brother monkeypox can spread the same way. Thare is a reason the family attack rate for monkeypox is 60+% sharing the same room with a symptomatic for longer than a few minutes as in over 5 is a sure fire way to pass it on.
The point is to stop a pox virus the health authorities need to contact trace hard and fast, isolated and truly quarantine even the slightest contacts and ring vaccinate those who are in those contacts the existing 100+ year old smallpox vaccine is the same one that stops monkeypox even if given 4 days after exposure. Every human alive in the 1970s got that vaccine it’s tinfoil qtard quackery to think it’s some sinister plot. It’s sound medical epidemiology to isolate and ring vaccinate.
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“Ring Vaccinate?” “Trace hard and fast?” “Isolate?” “Truly” quarantine? Gee, sounds sort of like what they are doing in China...
Your “science” sources? Health authorities? How can you trust the CDC and WHO for much of anything after the COVID fiascoS of past 2.5 years???? Let’s not forget America’s favorite doctor Fauci and his colleague Francis Collins... They all were so spot on with their edicts (so nice to have non-elected bureaucrats who stand to gain financially in charge):
Remember? 2 weeks to bend the curve?!?!? 2 months? 4 months? 6? For sure not 2 weeks in Blue states...Don’t wear masks. Wear masks (making them out of cloth or toweling?). Wear designer masks, Don’t wear masks. Wear 2 masks. 3 masks? Wear N-95 masks. Don’t wear masks. Vaccines provide 95% efficacy...one or 2 shots...except they didn’t and pharma knew. Boosters #1, #2, #3? Breakthrough infections extremely rare—except they are not. Myocarditis among high schoolers/college aged students—oh normal to have athletes keeling over...CDC publishes PSAs about how common heart attacks are...Sure. Science? Maybe “New Normal Science” but I cannot trust those who have been so incorrect or misleading.
Lest we forget, vax mandates for all—except the bureaucracies...
New York Times? Another trustworthy source.
If YOU or anyone else wants to go get vaccinated, have at it, but DON’T force the vax to “ring vaccinate” or mandate it for health care employees, or contact tracing, isolation, or quarantine on everyone else...
BTW, just how life-threatening is this? What is the death rate for Monkey Pox? 6%?
“Tin foil conspiracy qtard theories” you say? Not conspiracy theories if they are true...From these elected and non-elected bureaucrats’ edicts, over past 2 years, we have seen freedom of speech evaporate, our election process “changed” due to massive vote by mail and Zucker ballot boxes, our economy tumble (many businesses will never return), supply chain issues/early inflation in some sectors such as lumber vehicles, and most importantly our children suffer with isolation, zoom learning, masking mandates, and some are still being mandated in some locales to wear masks and/or be vaccinated when COVID is not life-threatening for them. And I am supposed to trust these institutions and bureaucrats now?
Whether you think there was a plot or not, the viruses and vaccines surely have been very beneficial in terms of money and power to certain groups...
Over past 2 years, we learned much about expansion and abuse of power by state, local, and fed government and various agencies and medical institutions—both nationally and globally. And they never stop expanding—Especially when those in charge aren’t strong supporters of freedom and liberty.
Frankly given their track record, I would not be surprised if there is not some “plot” to use Monkey Pox as a way to rejuvenate the vax mandates/vax passport mandates movement...WHO is currently attempting to mandate global vaccine papers and manage global health for all.
We had an outbreak of Monkey Pox in 2003. 47 cases as I recall. The difference from 2003 to now is in the reaction of the government, media, and public. In 2003, No one was talking about “ring vaccination,” isolation, quarantine. Frankly back in 2003, seems we were more capable of dealing with things...
You can focus on the “science” and accuse those with whom you disagree as being “qtards conspiracy theorists,” but I see the danger to our freedom as being far more serious than contracting Monkey Pox or COVID or debating the Monkey Pox transmission routes or vaccines.
Perhaps you’d be more comfortable in Australia, Germany, or Canada. Given their tyrannical COVID compliance track record, I am sure they have plans to implement “sound medical epidemiology” practices you outline.
Enjoy your freedoms while you have them, and enjoy the rest of your night.
Just wanted to point out to other thread posters that what you are espousing is pretty much right out of WEF/WHO game plan...Ring Vaccination? Ironically I heard a program right after I posted to you...From the program, here is article from Harvard Review (Another fine conservative publication with an information seeking author/sarc):
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/ring-vaccination-might-help-curtail-monkeypox-202206062757
Interesting idea... “offering” a vaccine to contacts, and friends of contacts...sort of like 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon...and what does “offering” mean? What if one choses not to take up the offer? Oh then that would be what you mention and think is medically sound: “Trace hard and fast?” “Isolate?” “Truly” quarantine There are already CDC Green Zones set up for quarantine. Tho these actions might be deemed acceptable times when the power of government is limited and the rights of individuals are revered (Constitutional Republic)...Is that the USA today??
Helen Clark: Transformational change...Global control Countries must comply:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWIsAFuUUeQ
Oh and our beloved Bill Gates was on this esteemed WEF “elite” panel with Helen along with others. Of course Bill does not even have a college degree—waaaay tooo smart to waste time listening to/learning from others.
Interesting that in the hour discussion, there was NO mention of China CCP/Fauci responsibility for COVID gain of function/release of virus...Lots of pro-global health dictates and pro-vaccine discussion though.
These elites believe they know better, and my question is
do you think they do too? I encourage you to read between the lines and look at big picture “JD” because things are not as they seem.
Enjoy your freedoms while you can.
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