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To: MtnClimber

FWIW, I doubt homosexuality is a mental illness.

In any case, why don’t we first make sure that the grooming of the nation’s kids is stopped.

After that’s done and our kids are protected, then we can sort out the rest of it.


5 posted on 06/06/2022 4:49:18 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: mewzilla
FWIW, I doubt homosexuality is a mental illness.

Once upon a time, mental health professionals treated the homosexuals who wanted help to return to normal.

Just sayin'.

16 posted on 06/06/2022 5:22:14 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is already under the tent.)
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To: mewzilla
"FWIW, I doubt homosexuality is a mental illness."

I had to take abnormal and criminal behavior back in the day, this is what I remember.

Homosexuals cluster with others on several metrics. They're more likely to commit crimes, they're more likely to be the victim of crimes. They're more likely to physically harm themselves (hospitalized frequently). Their more likely to commit suicide and to attempt it. Those are the ones I remember from older sociology texts.

The others they cluster with were called mentally ill. It's why they were classified like that in the first place.

PS - Among the statistically normal behaviors of homosexuals is the pursuit of minors for sex. This was in the previous class and also in a recent class so still current. So to deal with child sexual abuse requires sheilding them from your everyday garden variety homosexual.

21 posted on 06/06/2022 5:35:43 AM PDT by Varda
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To: mewzilla
"In any case, why don’t we first make sure that the grooming of the nation’s kids is stopped."

I respectfully disagree for two reasons. One is the slippery slope phenomenon. Basically if we win the argument at one stage and stop perversion at that point, it doesn't go to the next point. This is exactly what's happened with the sexual devolution. Normalizing sex while living together not married led to normalizing one night stands led to normalizing homosexuality led to normalizing pedo. It's quite possible that the reverse can be done (denormalizing homosexuality or one night stands might have the side-effect of denormalizing pedo).

The other is Romans 1:16-32, which clearly outlines the process of the slippery slope beginning with culture saying God isn't real -- from there the sexual deviancy is layered into culture step-by-step, including homosexuality (verses 26-27). We should strive to win the argument over verses 21-23 (where culture turns away from God's very existence and/or ceases to be grateful to God) so that culture has the attitude Paul has in verse 16 (being unashamed of the Gospel). For whatever reason, in today's culture it's the homosexual sin that's most layered with pride --- more than any other sin. If there's any sin that's the largest affront to winning back culture to God it's homosexuality (again, not because of the sin itself but how the worldly people are most proud of that sin).

So our main push should be to win culture back to Christ. And if we pick a sin to fight against it's pride (pride being no need for God, we can be our own gods) which for whatever reason is what the worldly people have tied together with homosexuality. Being successful with that is the best way to stop pedo. If we waste time trying to just stop pedo, we'll be fighting a losing battle by trying to treat the symptoms of the disease without treating the disease itself.

38 posted on 06/06/2022 7:46:05 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: mewzilla
FWIW, I doubt homosexuality is a mental illness.

What else would it be? As above, genetic trait is highly unlikely, unless it's a genetic deviance that doesn't always show up in identical twins. A physical abnormality? I don't think anyone has put out theories about sexual attraction being a physical, not mental, experience. (Yes, there are physical signs but they don't cause the attraction, they are a result of it.) So what would you can it then?
45 posted on 06/13/2022 1:21:28 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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