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To: Widget Jr

I’m not your personal search engine. Look yourself and if you don’t understand Russian, try wiki - better than nothing - you might find links there to all those sites and even to the Russian National Guard etc.

Else just go jump in a very deep lake with cement overshoes and quit bothering me with your ignorance.


76 posted on 05/30/2022 12:31:47 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF
I'm not your personal search engine.

I was asking you to support your position. I found a several articles discussing Russian BTGs written before the invasion, and held off posting them in response.

1. Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 9 Issue: 203, November 6, 2012 09:23 PM Moscow Resurrects Battalion Tactical Groups. This one cites numerous Russian sources, Isvestiya, Ekho Moskvy, Svobodnaya Pressa, Interfax, and Vzglyad.

2. Boston, Scott (2017). “The Russian Way of War: A Primer” (PDF). RAND. link:

Between the Ground Forces, the Airborne Troops (in Russian, Vozdushno-Desantnye Voiska, or VDV), and the Naval Infantry, Russia has around 60 brigade or regimental-sized formations. Most of these can provide one to two battalion tactical groups (BTGs) of professional (contract) soldiers."
3. TASS, 10 Aug 2021, 06:50: Russian Army operates around 170 battalion tactical groups — defense chief

"These are the forces that are ready for deployment in an hour after an alert signal, Sergey Shoigu pointed out"

"Around 170 battalion tactical groups are operational in the Russian Army today, Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said on Tuesday."

4. "Russian Hybrid Warfare and the Re-emergence of Conventional Armored Warfare: Implications for the U.S. Army's Armored Force", MAJ Amos C. Fox, Armor Magazine, July September 2015, Internet Archive

5. "Defeating the Battalion Tactical Group", CPT Nic Fiore, Armor Magazine, Spring 2017, Internet Archive

try wiki - better than nothing - you might find links there to all those sites and even to the Russian National Guard etc.

I did that. That's where I found these, all written before the invasion, by sources who would know, including Shoigu. The only source I know of who says Russia does not use BTGs is Defense Politics Asia, which is a one blogger show out of Singapore. He reads from both sides evenhandedly, and has a more informed political commentary, he is no military policy expert either. I'm pretty sure he knows less about Russian military organization than Shoigu himself, the Rand Corporation, or officers of the U.S. Army analyzing Russian forces.

78 posted on 05/30/2022 4:11:37 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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