[calenel]

The murder rate went up 30% in 2020. So that’s proof that “gun control” just shifts the demographics. People simply use tire irons and cars instead...

But, shootings are actually up, according to this article, at least for LA County:

https://www.californiacitynews.org/2021/10/los-angeles%E2%80%99-murder-rate-keeps-rising.html

So, the Slimes is just lying, apparently.

[Campion]

"Gun deaths" are a tricky stat. It counts murders, but only if committed with a gun. It also counts suicides (using guns) and it counts bad guys killed in legitimate self-defense, and it even counts perps shot by police.

Murders could go up by 10x, but if they were all committed with knives or blunt instruments, the "gun death" number wouldn't budge.