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To: MtnClimber

People are free to be strange, unfortunately, and you can’t have a monitor on everyone.


3 posted on 05/26/2022 12:21:21 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Unless you’re google and or the FBI.


9 posted on 05/26/2022 12:25:21 PM PDT by Leep (Don't say God.)
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To: ConservativeMind
"People are free to be strange, unfortunately, and you can’t have a monitor on everyone."

Here in Democrat-controlled New York State, both Cuomo's closed psych centers, and dumped mentally ill residents onto the street. It started when Mario Cuomo took office in 1983, and continued again during his son's terms as Governor. Eventually, those same residents tossed into the streets, ended up in the State's prison system. Nothing has changed in that system since I retired from it in 2003. People who are still working there, tell me it's even worse.

During Covid, Andrew Cuomo emptied convicts from the prisons, and they weren't required to complete their court-ordered sentences. This spring, a decision made under Cuomo/Hochul saw 5 State prisons closed, and convicts had to be dumped onto the street from around the State, to make room to shuffle the rest of the population around. Democrats say they want to lower crime, but in reality, everything they do, or fail to do, only increases crime. New York State has had a 3 Strikes Law since the early 1980's, yet no D.A. or State Attorney General has bothered to pursue prosecutions under it. It's nothing but sheer laziness on their part. That's why there are criminals with 19 prior arrests, many of them for violent offenses, back out on the street without bail within hours of their arrests. It's sickening. They have the means to stop this crap, but they won't do it. Instead, they tell you that crime is down. It's only down, because they are reducing the charges, cutting plea deals, and they're not locking up the criminals any more. Nobody these days does the time for the actual crime they commit.

30 posted on 05/26/2022 12:49:45 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: ConservativeMind

“People are free to be strange, unfortunately, and you can’t have a monitor on everyone.”

Right after I moved into town a man called up 911 told them he was cutting his leg off with a chainsaw and he wanted an ambulance. He’d tied it off, doused it in alcohol and used a new chainsaw. He cranked it while he was still on the phone and sawed his leg off. He was no stranger to the police. They’d had to deal with many, many bizarre and weird events with this man. When asked why they hadn’t done anything the sheriff answered, if we Baker Act him, we pay for it. It’s not in the budget and the mental hospital can charge anything they like.

Here’s a news snippet from Tampa several years ago.

“The arrest came in the same Clair-Mel City neighborhood east of Tampa where in July 1983 John William “Billy” Ferry Jr. splashed gasoline through a Winn-Dixie store and lit it, killing five and injuring 16. Ferry, 38, is serving a mandatory 125-year sentence at the Florida State Prison near Starke.”

This man’s family had begged the police to Baker Act him. Any officer can send just about anyone into a mental hospital for two weeks. It’s almost never done. Why? Expense. According to articles written at the time, even five minutes talking to him would have told the listener that he was a very dangerous man. Still, nothing was done until he’d murdered and maimed.

Any time you get a doctor, or a hospital involved it’s like going to the emergency room. They can charge anything they like.


33 posted on 05/26/2022 12:51:48 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry.)
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To: ConservativeMind

If they weren’t wasting time going after parents who speak up at school board meetings, they would have more time to deal with real threats.


35 posted on 05/26/2022 12:57:22 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith… )
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To: ConservativeMind

Unless they commit a crime or an offense, nothing can be done at all.

Just because someone has mental health issues or displays signs of aggression does not mean they will kill a bunch of people.

Mental health is not a crime, nor is aggressive demeanor.

So, lets go back to focusing on the real problems as to why these kids do what they do!


43 posted on 05/26/2022 1:13:17 PM PDT by neverbluffer
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