Posted on 05/25/2022 11:21:37 PM PDT by Olog-hai
Ko Im always thought she would live in New York forever. She knew every corner of Manhattan and had worked hard to build a community of friends. Living in a small apartment, she found her attitude shifting early in the pandemic. After her brother accepted a job in Seattle in the summer of 2020, she decided to move there too.
“It was fine until it wasn’t,” said Im, 36. “The pandemic really changed my mindset about how I wanted to live or how I needed to live.”
Eight of the 10 largest cities in the U.S. lost population during the first year of the pandemic, with New York, Los Angeles and Chicago leading the way. Between July 2020 and July 2021, New York lost more than 305,000 people, while Chicago and Los Angeles contracted by 45,000 residents and 40,000 people, respectively. […]
Brooking Institution demographer William Frey said he believes the population declines in most of the largest U.S. cities from 2020 to 2021 are “short-lived and pandemic-related.”
When it came to growth rates, as opposed to raw numbers, the fastest-growing cities with populations of at least 50,000 residents were in the suburbs of booming Sunbelt metro areas. They included Georgetown and Leander outside Austin; the town of Queen Creek and the cities of Buckeye, Casa Grande and Maricopa, outside Phoenix; the city of New Braunfels, outside San Antonio; and Fort Myers, Florida. They had growth rates of between 6.1% and 10.5%. …
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One lib shithole to another, with more rain and now the only nighttime attraction is watching center city burn.
Thanks to her, PA didn't get another lib, we don't want them.
Truck rental rates tell the tale. From CA to Texas or NY to the Carolinas or Florida, prices are astronomical due to the demand. Wheras the places practically give the trucks away going in the other direction.
Not a word about crime, or quality of life, or who has been running those cities for the last 50 years. Well la di dah.
Even the non-illegal flight is greatly exaggerated, at least in NYC. I don’t care what a democrat or RINA ‘admits’. Population loss hysteria is even more ludicrous than global warming hype.
Because they want to eat and live?
The rotten Apple really is no longer pleasant or safe. It will always attract a certain few, but it’s not for me.
Perhaps a day trip to the 911 memorial, but that’s perhaps the only reason to visit.
She went out of the frying pan into the fire, LOL.
Under credible threat of force. Most people get it and don’t let things escalate, but nonpayment eventually results in eviction at the sheriff’s gunpoint.
Social security is another Ponzi scheme that relies on population increase.
The government WANTS open borders and increased immigration. Competing with other countries for chattle property humans.
So, the exercise of property rights in a market-oriented economy. So terrible.
“short-lived and pandemic-related.”
Keep dreaming Billy.
People are leaving cities because they are no longer safe to live in. Covid proved that many people who work on a computer hooked up to the internet do not have to step into an office to do their jobs. They can be just as productive working from home.
If you do not need to go into the office, there is no reason to LIVE in the CITY or the SUBURBS. In fact you may not even need to live in the same state or country.
People are not taking new jobs IF they have to come into the office. IF this is the case, why not live in Thailand or other inexpensive places in the world?
For individuals who are disciplined and motivated, yes you are right.
For those who are paid where they have to hustle for their earnings. (make their sales on phone = % of sales = commisions)
Most of us are human. We need to work for the "man" so we won't be tempted to slack off.
If you have a study proving that people are just as productive working at home as they are at the office, I'll love to read it. Not just ancedotal stories.
I don’t know if the “non-illegal flight” is exaggerated; whereas people would move south when they retired before, now some leave when the children finish high school - colleges and taxes are cheaper elsewhere, and decent jobs are becoming scarce. The last point it probably the most important; people can’t afford to stay.
That only works if you can wring payments out of the imported populations; if they just show up expecting services without work, they aren’t helping SS at all.
I do not have any studies. Just as you say “anecdotal stories”.
I am a straight commission lumber broker. I worked from home for two months. I prefer being in the office. Except when it slow. Then I waste my time on the internet on Free Republic.
However, as a trader, I tend to trade with other people on the trading floor.
Other traders I work with are almost 95% self reliant. Meaning they only buy and sell product that they source. Two of those guys have been working out of the office for eighteen months. They both had the best year they ever had last year. So, it depends on the individual.
When my office was closed for two months we had a couple staff(not st commission) people that did not get their work done. They had family issues that distracted them. Neither one wanted to come back into the office. Neither one work here anymore. They were both employees with the company for 8-10 years.
IMHO, working from home is a privilege that should be EARNED. Not something for everyone.
However, I personally know several people who are now doing it. Some occasionally. Some 2-3/week. Some have not been in the office for six months or more. Two of them made it a condition of the position they accepted in the last year.
Yankee liberals move to sunbelt? Goodbye NYC. Goodbye sunbelt. We sadly lack the ability to keep these vermin out of civilized states.
Please do not pack liberal ideas to the places you are moving to.Thank you...Throw them in the trash...
Forced as landlords increasing rents by 50 to 100 percent. If they did this in a hurricane it would be called price gouging and they would be prosecuted for it. The people from New York and California think nothing of the new prices as these rates are what they have been used to paying. Instead of staying and fixing the problems where they live, they are fleeing them and bringing them to Florida. Unfortunately for Governor Desantis, the working class people see that he cares for the new arrivals money more than for the people who put him in office. I think he will win reelection, but by a closer margin than he thinks, as the working class is being forced out of state by economics. And retired people will find that there new tax assessments will be much higher next year, A 50k deduction before taxes are calculated for homestead exemption is great when your home was valued at 150k, but since the average home is now valued at 500k people are in for a rude shock. Charlie Crist is a gutless opportunist, and I will never vote for him. Unfortunately Desantis is not giving me a reason to vote for him,
Nor move to out! It took me many years to do it, and two prior abortive attempts.
Meanwhile NYC style cost of living is spreading. Absurd rents are now often matched in more and more towns and cities across the state. Often it's NYC landlords buying up the properties in other towns and jacking up the rents.
And I'm the only one I know personally that made it out of NYC other than a lady who moved out decades ago. Meanwhile, I know lots of people who are moving there from smaller towns including one friend who moved there last year.
Call me a population decrease denier, but if you look carefully enough you will see that just like behind the global warming hysteria, there are interested parties pushing the freak out notion that there is a tidal wave move out of certain places. Sometimes they even say it about small towns! Meanwhile, the common denominator is that the same places about which such freak out stories are spun.... .....are receiving points for new waves of legally and illegally present aliens.
I think a lot of foreign money is buying the properties as well; ChiComs can’t spend the money they rake in with cheap manufacturing over there, so they buy up properties here.
The rents are increasing in many places because the property taxes are; the property owner has to pay those higher taxes. In my area in northeast NJ, large old homes are being divided into two- and three-family homes (legally or otherwise), with two huge ripple effects: The student population increases in areas with no or few new constructions in years (because all the land is developed), and parking is atrocious (as many smaller units, instead of being rented by families with children, are rented by cohabitating couples with his and her dogs - and both add cars to the street in several homes on each street).
It makes for an expensive cost of living coupled with a low standard of living; many people look to leave when the children finish high school (intending to go to college - and permanently live - somewhere else).
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