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To: max americana

1. Finally, a caliber that will “answer the mail” over any combat distance And achieve penetration through heavy foliage, walls and light vehicles - and most types of body armor.

2. A weapon with a good gas piston design (instead of that stupid Stoner self - polluting gas tube/piston in the bolt. Ever tried firing full-auto with suppressor? You gas yourself so bad you can’t see anything.

3. I’ve hear all the indignation from the M16/M4 shooters about the “terrible recoil”. I carried a full auto M14 in combat: that weapon always worked, and killed reliably from point-blank to 600 m and beyond and was a sweetheart to handle.

Sounds like a real battle rifle is coming back! Only took them 55 years!


69 posted on 05/22/2022 7:22:56 PM PDT by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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To: Chainmail
1. Finally, a caliber that will “answer the mail” over any combat distance And achieve penetration through heavy foliage, walls and light vehicles - and most types of body armor.

2. A weapon with a good gas piston design (instead of that stupid Stoner self - polluting gas tube/piston in the bolt. Ever tried firing full-auto with suppressor? You gas yourself so bad you can’t see anything.

3. I’ve hear all the indignation from the M16/M4 shooters about the “terrible recoil”. I carried a full auto M14 in combat: that weapon always worked, and killed reliably from point-blank to 600 m and beyond and was a sweetheart to handle.

Sounds like a real battle rifle is coming back! Only took them 55 years!

Word!

It's amazing the number of people crying over the replacement of a rifle and cartridge that only exists because of people who whined that a real rifle weighed too much and kicked them too hard. Essentially the pot smoking wimps of the '60's weren't half the men that their WWII era fathers were and demanded a puzzified rifle and round so their vaginas wouldn't hurt. A battle rifle exists to kill the enemy, not to avoid scuffing your nail polish. It's long past time we kicked the 5.56 to the curb and fielded a real rifle.

74 posted on 05/22/2022 8:10:09 PM PDT by GaryCrow
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To: Chainmail

In 69 posts you’re the first to mention the gas piston design.

Yes, definitely a good call.


79 posted on 05/22/2022 8:27:06 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: Chainmail

Right you are on every point. We NEVER (or only very rarely...I never did) fired full auto even with the 5.56. After firing the M-14 on full auto realized that was never to be repeated...but the 14 FELT and HANDLED like a RIFLE. I missed it.

A Mini-14, beefed up to handle the 6.8x51 w/good sights and synthetic stock, sounds ideal. (Never much cared for pistol grip stocks and “weak” butt stocks). As for recoil, if you find it difficult to handle, join the Air Force or Navy.

Infantry is a different animal altogether, from Grunts to SF. Recoil is part of the deal.


84 posted on 05/22/2022 8:44:28 PM PDT by TigerHawk (The Raised Middle Finger in the Clenched Fist of the World)
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