Posted on 05/22/2022 10:04:46 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
Ukrainian fighters were overjoyed after they blew up one of Russia's deadly vacuum bomb launchers in an enormous explosion.
Vladimir Putin's war effort was once again damaged as Volodymyr Zelensky's troops destroyed another piece of Moscow's military equipment.
The Ukrainian 80th Air Assault Brigade hit a TZM-T (TOS-1 reloading vehicle) with a Stugna-P ATGM, a Ukrainian anti-tank guided missile.
Footage shows missiles being fired at a Russian TOS-1 launcher on the side of a hill before the thermobaric missile launcher explodes with a massive ball of fire and thick smoke.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
If you’d bother to dig beyond Uke orgs or Daily Mail
From your sourcing ....the Globalists folks
The Telegraph.....London
“ The announcement by the International Committee of the Red Cross, which acts as a guardian of the Geneva Conventions that aim to limit “the barbarity of war,” came shortly after Russia’s military said 1,730 Ukrainian troops at the steel mill have surrendered.”
That was the count accepted by The Telegraph four days ago
The roughly 3000 i quoted last night was from an Indian pro Trump source I saw on YouTube....any alternative info to the tsunami of western propaganda is hard to mine and admittedly unless I see actual civilians interviewed and bodies on the road I tend to be suspect same as I would globalist fanboy stuff
The surrenders ended yesterday
I don’t make stuff up here...amd when factually incorrect I admit it and correct it
Thanks
They were stapled onto the Ukraine by Khrushchev in the 50s and then signed over by during the breakup of the Soviet Union. The locals were not consulted. Ukrainia Irredenta is not part of the deal.
1750 is Million Man Math from Russia. Red Cross has never said that 1750 number.
From what I’m reading, the Red Cross won’t release any numbers on registered POWs, nor have the disputed the Russian numbers, which are far closer to the 3,000 than ‘under 500’.
I get that they don’t want to release individual data, but why not total numbers? Are they too now taking a side?
I linked my last post with numbers from sites you’d link as well if it suited the spam you run here for whomever
You link nothing cause you don’t have anything to back up your claims of under 500 surrendered at AZOVSTAL
Those figures are four days ago and the final groups trickled out Friday and Saturday
Reports several hundred to nearly 1000 last two days
So where’s your link it’s less than 500 total
Waiting?
A man admits error especially if an anonymous spammer
I mean come on man lol
See 46
Looks like globalist Inc is willing to accept 1700 something before final evacuations to prisoner camps (sic)
Sources on site said 100s to nearly 1000 came out Friday and Sat
A few looked pretty damn tuff to give ‘em credit
What would be the point of that?!
Whether you agree with Zelensky on other points or not he isn’t wrong when he says Russia has practically flattened Donbas and Mariupol. It’s not Ukraine smashing the Russian areas to bits, and Russia would only win a referendum as a result of people fleeing the occupied area, and Russians coming in from Russia to take thrir place.
Look at Kherson where that is already happening. The Russian administration there invited hundreds of Russians in for the victory parade and has handed them apartments left empty by families that have fled.
More and more families wjo don’t want the Russian occupation are fleeing for their lives - INCLUDING ethnic Russians who are against the war. The only people moving into or staying in the city are Russian settlers sensing a great opportunity, and people who pledged allegiance to the new Russian administration.
It’s an ethnic cleansing designed to make any referendum return a compelling endorsement of the annexation.
It does look like the city will be emptied of Ukrainians (whether Russian or not) who oppose the Ruscist takeover long before a referendum can be held.
Any international monitor would have to ask voters if they’re even from Kherson, to determine if the vote is being rigged or not. It ain’t gonna happen, is it?
Kherson and Mariupol were 50% Russian before the war. They never got asked what they wanted. The borders don’t reflect demographics and need to be shifted so they do. If people don’t want to live under Russian rule, we should be willing to facilitate their move to Ukrainian areas. That’s a lot better than shipping $40 billion in foreign aid to Ukrainian oligarchs so they can pad their Swiss bank accounts
“They never got asked what they wanted”
Er, yes they did. In 1991. Moreover, their constitution doesn’t just provide a clear mechanism for Oblast ACCESSION like America’s Constitution does for States, it provides for devolution and secession. In all three cases, a NATIONAL referendum is required.
The Ukrainian Constitutional mechanism required the endorsement across 2/3 of Ukraine’s Oblasts to hold a NATIONAL referendum if the proposed referendum question involves alteration of the sovereignty and/or territory of Ukraine. It has to - because the Budapest Memorandum has to be upheld by all its signatories, and it’d be nonsensical for USA, Russia and UK to be bound to its obligations if regions within Ukraine could unilaterally mess about with their own borders.
In America, the Constitution imbues Congress with a very similar power and a very similar constraint. For example, the Colorado statehood bid failed in 1867 despite a majority vote (29 “yes”, 19 “no” and four “absent”). That vote needed to have a 2/3 majority to be passed.
Can a non-state join the USA purely on the basis of a rigged internal referendum that only asked some counties not others if they wanted to join? Could it succeed without a 2/3 majority in Congress under those circumstances. Of course not. Likewise, if a secession mechanism existed in the USA along the exact same lines, could a State hold a rigged vote for secession, exclude several counties from exercising its right to vote, and expect Congress to ratify the referendum result? Again, of course not.
If those referenda in Ukraine had been held in America, they’d have been ruled unconstitutional, and Congress wouldn’t have upheld them.
Constitution of Ukraine: https://www.refworld.org/pdfid/44a280124.pdf as it now stands.
From 2013, an EU review. https://www.legislationline.org/download/id/7795/file/Ukraine_law_national_referendum_2012_en.pdf provides clarification on how it works in practice.
Article 72: ... An All-Ukrainian referendum is called on popular initiative on the request of no less than three million citizens of Ukraine who have the right to vote, on the condition that the signatures in favour of designating the referendum have been collected in no less than two-thirds of the oblasts, with no less than 100 000
signatures in each oblast.
Article 73: Altering the territory of Ukraine IS resolved exclusively by an All-Ukrainian referendum.
Kherson can secede from Ukraine if Ukraine agrees to hold a national referendum. The national referendum CANNOT exclude Ukrainians or Russians from voting. It MUST allow mechanisms for residents of Kherson who’re not actually in Kherson at the time of the referendum, to cast their vote.
If Russia’s rigged referendum intimidates Ukrainian voters, gives votes to visiting Russians, and prevents the tens of thousands of rightful property-owners who fled from Kherson but still officially live there from voting, then its referendum will be completely unconstitutional and no international monitor will sign it off. Russia can fiddle it any way it likes to guarantee a 90% vote for independence, and it’ll still be a bullshit referendum with no standing either in Ukraine or in the eyes of the international community.
How many of those thermobaric missile launchers do we figure the Russians have in theater. Do the Ukrainians have any and are any of what we are sending with the $40B comparable?
Nice map. My son recently got his DNA analyzed with Ancestry.com, which also supplies maternal and paternal background. I have about 6 to 10% far, far eastern genes from my maternal East Prussian/Polish background, so probably from the Golden Horde. Has anyone notice that the Mongol outline looks like a monster about to bite the black Sea with a Korean tail? Good way to picture Putin!
It is easy to end up shifting positions with the many, often conflicting sources available. The East Ukrainians might think they would be happier under Putin. I would like to hear their opinions 5 years from now. Corruption exists in both cultures, but I have the impression that the Uke variety is more like getting paid to get something productive and enriching done, whereas the Russian varied is more oriented to getting filthy rich and then escaping to have fun with yachts and sports companies.
UA captured 2 TOS-1As that I know about - missiles for them? - no idea. US has no field thermobaric weapons, just air and missile delivered ones.
Word of caution Ancestry DNA tests are done in China were your DNA is stored in a PLA database, to contribute to making a race specific or individual specific genetic weapon.
Ancestry DNA is also known to be wildly inaccurate in many cases - its basically a scam.
Use My Heritage, much better at finding relatives and helping you with information. Also linked to Mormon Family database; this gives each person a specific number greatly helping to keep people with the same names separate. That is something very difficult on Ancestry where information in large lineages often gets mixed and is flat out wrong.
Thanks for the information. I think my son also plans to do 23 And Me, which also includes Neanderthal. I suspect my husband was high on that %, and this son and I both have shovel formation of our lateral upper ancisors which could be a Neanderthal trace (or maybe Denisovan?). My husbands mother told him she was 1/8th Cree Indian, but there was no mention of Amerindian traces in my son’s or my husband’s traces. Other than than the other percentages seemed pretty consistant with what was known about both my and my husband’s heritage. I have old documents from my mother’s side going back to the 17th century. My uncle on my father’s side did ancestry records research, some going back to the Mayflower.
23 & Me also goes to China and is even more inaccurate. Mother’s side goes back to early 1500s - going back further becomes nearly impossible.
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