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Putin's top security officials believe 'the war is lost' and a coup is a realistic possibility, Russia analyst says
Daily Mail ^ | 5/19/2022 | Will Stewart

Posted on 05/19/2022 9:33:36 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

Vladimir Putin's top security officials understand that the war in Ukraine is 'lost' and a coup is now a realistic possibility, a Russian analyst has predicted.

Christo Grozev, a Russia expert, believes GRU and FSB elites are the most likely to try and topple Putin, because they know the truth of what is happening on the ground.

And those elites are already looking for ways to move their money and families out of the country in anticipation of Putin falling, Grozev claims.

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Grozev also said that defence ministry flights to a supposed command and control bunker near Ufa - 725 miles east of Moscow - have reduced since earlier in the war.

'Those flights for the elite, which we recorded a month ago, are now not so intense,' he said.

Grozev said that senior figures in the FSB - Russia's main internal security agency - and in the GRU military intelligence directorate - are preparing for life after Putin.

The 'intellectual part of the GRU', those with 'complete information' understand the mire Putin is in, he said.

'And also the FSB elite, which knows the specific number of victims among the Russian troops, and understands that the mothers, wives, sisters of the dead or missing Russian soldiers do not stop asking questions.

'They know that this situation will eventually get out of hand.

'These are those parts of the security forces who know the dangers for the regime, and they themselves are now preparing their future.

'Some of them are looking for an opportunity to take their families out of Russia, all are looking for ways to transfer the accumulated money (corruption money in many cases) into dollars and euros.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: coup; dailyfail; propaganda; putin; putlims; silliness
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To: Little Ray

Getting rid of Putin may not be the end of the war. It might get really worse. Stalin was worse than Lenin. Ukraine will get screwed—even in Victory.


41 posted on 05/19/2022 12:03:57 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: marcusmaximus

So, let me get this straight.

The most powerful arsenal of nukes of the top 3 nuclear powers are under the control of 3 men, each with severe health issues and a desire to consolidate more power?


42 posted on 05/19/2022 12:16:25 PM PDT by unlearner (Si vis pacem, para bellum. Let him who desires peace prepare for war.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Ukraine will get screwed—even in Victory

But it's really gonna suck when they lose.

43 posted on 05/19/2022 12:19:39 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Love's redeeming work is done)
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To: Mr Radical

So if there is a story you don’t agree with, regardless of multiple source, its got to be untrue, right? Indeed you are radical. Oh and kiss Pootie Toot good night, like a good little boy toy.


44 posted on 05/19/2022 12:21:21 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: marcusmaximus

Perhaps this could be put on hold until/unless the possibility becomes a probability. Feeding our babies, having enough gasoline in the tank to get to the emergency room should they go into convulsions and watching our daughters so they are not raped by our new illegal alien population seems to be more pressing at this time.(Please feel free to add your own problems affecting your ability to sleep at night.)


45 posted on 05/19/2022 12:25:24 PM PDT by scottiemom (As a retired Texas public school teacher, I highly recommend private school. (Written in 2015))
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To: marcusmaximus

White Russian dissidents reveal to Daily Mail a top secret plot to oust Putin. Yay!


46 posted on 05/19/2022 12:48:33 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Kazan

Soviet Russia is indeed Soviet as is being endlessly demonstrated by Soviet forces openly using the Soviet flag and Soviet emblems on their uniforms.

☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭


47 posted on 05/19/2022 1:32:30 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce. ☭☭☭)
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To: Kazan

The non sequitur remains unexplained.

You replied to an honest question with bombast and ad hominem ... not a recognized debate-winning tactic.


48 posted on 05/19/2022 1:36:06 PM PDT by Belteshazzar
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To: MercyFlush
You know absolutely nothing about modern-day Russia.

It is at least as free a country as Canada and Australia with far more conservative government in charge than Canada.

It's your kind of hatred and ignorance that leads to wars and world wars.

49 posted on 05/19/2022 2:10:19 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: marcusmaximus
You're projecting your own issues onto the Russians.

No doubt, you've always dreamed to having a Russian wife or girlfriend.

50 posted on 05/19/2022 2:11:46 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
Russia is a craphole country with an inferiority complex that is well earned.

They just suck. Always have.

They lost in WW1.

They would have lost WW2 without U.S. lend lease.

And they wouldn't have gotten nukes without buying the plans from American traitors.

And they still can't let go of their inferiority complex.



51 posted on 05/19/2022 3:18:59 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Kazan

Russia is entering the 20th Century someday!


52 posted on 05/19/2022 3:20:39 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce. ☭☭☭)
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To: Kazan
Heroes of Russia.


53 posted on 05/19/2022 3:29:13 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Kazan

54 posted on 05/19/2022 3:32:27 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Kazan

On June 19, 1953, Julius died after the first electric shock. Ethel’s execution did not go smoothly. After she was given the normal course of three electric shocks, attendants removed the strapping and other equipment only to have doctors determine that Ethel’s heart was still beating. Two more electric shocks were applied, and at the conclusion eyewitnesses reported that smoke rose from her head.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg#Execution


55 posted on 05/19/2022 3:38:28 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: PIF
So if there is a story you don’t agree with, regardless of multiple source, its got to be untrue, right?
No, as I said, simply because the MSM repeats the same story doesn't make it true!
Oh and kiss Pootie Toot good night, like a good little boy toy.
Thanks for revealing your level of reasoning and of intellect!
Good night!
56 posted on 05/20/2022 1:37:19 AM PDT by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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