Posted on 05/16/2022 6:36:41 PM PDT by markomalley
As your ancient quote demonstrates, this is not the first war to involve propaganda,false reports, etc.
You want us to be sure before we believe or report something. We do not have that capability.
Yes, but always before deception had been used as a force multiplier, not as a strategic asset. The closest prior example was Patton's ghost army which caused the Nazis to hold forces in reserve to defend against the "real" invasion in Calais. The difference is that the prior deception required physical assets (plywood admittedly) while this is pure information...all electronically.
You want us to be sure before we believe or report something.
I want people to be extremely skeptical. The default position should be incredulity not gullibility.
We do not have that capability.
Frankly, I think better of my fellow FReepers than that
Don’t have that capability?
Then it should not be reported. Or it’s propaganda or borders on it. You wouldn’t want to help CNN, MSNBC, etc, would you?
And the libtard tactic of “But reporting it is for a good cause” isn’t acceptable.
And “news” articles that make claims with anonymous sources are junk as well.
Ok guess there is no war and we should stop discussing it?
No thank you.
Oh whatever.
I’m ok with people posting biased and questionable stuff. Then we in the comments can pick it apart and be skeptical.
It’s ok to post things that are flawed.
As long as a person isn’t systematically posting things in bad faith, where they know they are posting garbage over and over
Stop believing everything the media tells you. The same media that has lied for years to you are suddenly to bevtrusted?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUnc496-PPmFZVKlYxUnToA
This guy does a daily update using maps from Russian and western sources.
I think he is from Belarus, so a bit of a Russian slant (keep that in mind) but at least somewhat balanced. I enjoy it as you get to see the overall context in X’s and O’s so to speak. Something that seems to be sorely lacking in this conflict.
Dude it’s not for you to tell me what to believe and what to reject. If you have some info, share it. Telling people to disbelieve everything is not information.
I’m really tired of the silly rationales given for telling people to reject information.
If you have FACTS share them. Actual facts on the topic not “They lied to you before”.
Did you ever see “The Man Who Never Was”. It’s a British film about a dead person the Brits stuck fake D-Day plans in his pocket to make the Nazis think the Allied landing would be on a different location than it actually was. They waited for tide to go in and dumped his body in the ocean so he would wash up on the beach.
The Nazis thought they had it all figured out and placed the bulk of their troops at beaches far away from the actual landing site. It was all a bunch of lies the British put out to protect Allied troops:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Never_Was
Yeah that was part of Operation Quicksilver. (Patton's Ghost Army was the biggest part of it)
Military Deception has always been part of war. But what I've seen in this war had taken it to a new level.
I’ve seen that account on Twitter.
I think there is a link to rumble as well which is probably better than youtube. Anyway a bit of a Russian home team guy but I appreciate the tactical X’s and O’s.
That is warfare deception and has nothing to do with propaganda reporting, occurring on both sides I might add.
Thanks.
You’re welcome. It’s even fairly interesting to go back a few days. I think the first one I caught was around the time just after the river crossings.
“ before you post some claim on either side, make SURE you know it’s correct”
Lol hardly any of this crap is verifiable and it won’t start now 🤪
Just watched Operation Mincemeat. British dumped a body with secret war plans off ghe coastvof Spain, to convince the Germans they would land in Greece instead of Sicily.
You just want an excuse to post or for those who post stuff from libtard outlets who use libtard tactics.
Not welcome at FR. Go to DU.
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