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To: Chainmail
"Got over 40 years in artillery!"

I'm amazed that Ukrainians are able to get direct hits on tanks and APCs etc. with artillery. Can they be that good without some type of guidance support?. …….

23 posted on 05/16/2022 7:27:14 AM PDT by GonzoII ("If the new crime be, to believe in God, let us all be criminals" -Sheen )
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To: GonzoII

The CEP of ordinary artillery shells would seem to preclude an expectation of direct hits. They could be using guided munitions at least sometimes.

However “close” is not “no cigar” in many cases. Lightly armored vehicles can be penetrated by larger pieces of shrapnel .


25 posted on 05/16/2022 7:40:56 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: GonzoII

The CEP of ordinary artillery shells would seem to preclude an expectation of direct hits. They could be using guided munitions at least sometimes.

However “close” is not “no cigar” in many cases. Lightly armored vehicles can be penetrated by larger pieces of shrapnel .


26 posted on 05/16/2022 7:40:57 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: GonzoII
"I'm amazed that Ukrainians are able to get direct hits on tanks and APCs etc. with artillery. Can they be that good without some type of guidance support?. ……."

I agree that precision guided rounds would be the best answer for attacking individual vehicles - but if they have pre-registered targets on a road and the vehicles are bunched together, they have a better than even chance of nailing a vehicle or two.

I have seen a cluster of M-198 155mm craters out in the desert that didn't measure more that 10 meters across, fired by a single howitzer, same data (and well-seated trails) fired at 11,000 meters range and it astounded me with that great precision. That's less than one mil in deviation for range and deflection dispersion!

Artillery can be very precise indeed.

27 posted on 05/16/2022 7:52:03 AM PDT by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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