Well I still don’t believe the media the western globalist media they’ve lied My whole life pretty much but they’ve gotten much much worse and I try to step out alternative information but yet many people here believe every word now when it comes to Ukraine and they ignore inconvenient truths like Ukrainian atrocities and Donbas the past eight years and any thing else they don’t like
The lack of skepticism about the main stream media and tech oligarchs on this forum is very troubling
Free Republic Myself included has become very old with a lot less critical thinking and it’s reflected I guess it was unavoidable
I don’t believe the Ukraine is a democracy I don’t believe it’s worth fighting for and I don’t believe Russia or Putin are communist bent on world domination like in my youth it’s simply a condo hard but so many people here are vested in that I’ve never seen anything like this where conservatives or at least people who purport to be conservative just don’t give a shit anymore who would ever think half of this forum and Chuck Schumer and George Soros and William Kristol And Nancy Pelosi and CNN and the New York Times and the United Nations and the European Union would all be on the same page
I’ve only seen one Ukraine war supporter aching for a confrontation with Russia that can elucidate their views with a whole lot and it presented with alternative information they simply dismiss it as lies like Patrick Lancaster he’s alive he’s been in the Don bass for eight years reams of video of atrocities from both sides dismissed by people who don’t leave their basement
Turn your critical thinking back on. Although there are many topics where conservatives disagree with the ideas of people like Kristol, Pelosi, and Soros there are also some areas that just about every educated person in the world agrees on. Let's take one simple example. Do you think that people who lack skin pigmentation are witches?
There are a few places in the world where people that lack skin pigmentation are persecuted and sometimes killed since they are considered to be witches. Sad but true.
I am sure that George Soros, CNN, the editors of the NY Times, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and just about every left wing pundit, politician, or celebrity in the USA would not lead an effort to kill people who lack skin pigmentation in case they were witches. And I am also sure that it would be hard to find many, or even any Freepers who would condone or advocate for killing people because they lack skin pigmentation.
In reality you have seen thousands of "things" where conservatives and leftist fools both agree. You just don't think about them much.
In the case of Ukraine it seems easier for some people to reflexively side with Russia since what they are doing is opposed by liberals. But everyone should be opposed to what Russia is doing in Ukraine, because regardless of political issues invading a neighboring country and wantonly destroying civilian property and killing civilians is wrong. And even if you think invading another nation is acceptable, most people can't support the Russian soldiers who are raping women, stealing property, and killing civilians for no legitimate reason regardless of their political orientation.
...when it comes to Ukraine and they ignore inconvenient truths like Ukrainian atrocities and Donbas the past eight years...
The lack of skepticism about the main stream media and tech oligarchs on this forum is very troubling
Free Republic Myself included has become very old with a lot less critical thinking and it’s reflected ...
Agree.
I don’t believe Ukraine is a democracy. Russia isn’t one either. They both have neo-Nazis, and they both use them.
What I do believe in, it was wrong for Russia to invade. If Ukraine invaded Russia, I would say the same thing. So get off your high horse.
Yeah. Once one becomes so jaded they don’t believe anything then what is left?
Everything you said was true 40 years ago, 80 years ago, 160 years ago. What was our South REALLY like in 1855? How much rabble rousing by both sides caused brother against brother five years or so later?
When has the media NOT lied to us? When have they NOT advocated a political side?
NOTHING is certain. People, and institutions especially, lie all the time. Sometimes the lies aren’t really lies because the truth gets so hidden no one knows what is true or not.
I spent 22 years of my life defending this country. Call me delusional, or crazy, or a liar, but I still will love and defend her, despite, and maybe even more so, due to the bad guys being in charge.
I cannot think some Ukranian who defends his country is just a Nazi or working for Soros. That’s just crazy talk. And by crazy, I mean weirdly wrong, not off the wall insane. The fact they were invaded is the only thing I know to be true. That shouldn’t have happened.
No one on this forum, no group of Free Republic partisans either, are right and the wrong. That applies to this Russian war. Both sides have important points and can make the case.
I’m not ever going to say one side is stupid, or aren’t real conservatives... Come on man, when either side says that, they are the ones who are wrong.
You say the lack of skepticism about the main stream media and tech oligarchs on this forum is very troubling... Dude, skepticism is the HEART of Free Republic. There’s just so MUCH to be skeptical about, on just about every topic, if one promotes one over the other and isn’t on a particular side they get accused of not being “one”.
That’s crazy, too.
I try to go with my gut instinct when the truth is propagandized by every side. One thing you’ll note about me is I do not call people names and slander them.
We’re all stupid in one way or another.