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EU-Commission wants to screen all chat messages
Chaos Computer Club ^

Posted on 05/10/2022 6:28:44 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe

Am Mittwoch, dem 11. Mai 2022 veröffentlicht die EU-Kommission voraussichtlich den Gesetzesentwurf zur sogenannten Chatkontrolle. Geplant ist eine KI-basierte Prüfung aller Nachrichteninhalte und Bilder direkt auf unseren Geräten. Das so genannte Client-Side-Scanning wäre ein Angriff auf jegliche vertrauliche Kommunikation.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 1984; security; spy; surveillance
Translated:

"On Wednesday, 11 May 2022, the EU Commission is expected to publish the draft law on so-called chat control. An AI-based check of all message content and images directly on our devices is planned. The so-called client-side scanning would be an attack on all confidential communication."

The draft provides for all communication content to be examined directly on our devices and to be diverted in case of suspicion. This client-side scanning would not be the first exaggerated and misguided surveillance method justified by the fight against child abuse.

Undoubtedly, those affected by child abuse need to be better helped, but chat control is an exuberant approach, easy to circumvent and starts in the completely wrong place. Without expected success in the sense of the actual goal, an unprecedented monitoring tool is to be introduced.

Completely missed the target

The proposed bill provides for each device to examine every message for images of child abuse and criminals contacting children. If such content is detected in a message, it should be forwarded directly to a control body or the police. Mass scanning not only attacks confidential communication at its foundations, but would also be ineffective: Criminals already use distribution channels that would not be affected by these scans today and will easily escape the scans in the future: The perpetrators use public hosters instead of the messengers targeted by the Commission – not least because messengers are completely unsuitable for exchanging large file collections. Before the exchange, they also encrypt the data additionally. For this reason alone, the planned surveillance will not prevent the dissemination of abuse images.

No trusted communication without trusted devices

Not only journalists and whistleblowers are dependent on trustworthy communication – it is a fundamental right and an important cornerstone of all our IT security. For communication to be truly trustworthy, two conditions must be met:
• Your own device must have integrity and must not divert content to third parties
• The encryption must be secure so that we do not have to trust the network

With the secrecy of telecommunications and the fundamental right to guarantee the confidentiality and integrity of information technology systems, chat control overrides two fundamental rights. Users lose control over which data they share with whom and how. They lose basic trust in their own devices. So far, it is not clear who should define and control the detection algorithms and databases. Such a non-transparent system can and will be easily expanded after its introduction. It is already foreseeable that the rights exploitation industry will be just as keenly interested in the system as anti-democratic governments. All the more frightening is the innocence with which it is now to be introduced.

Error rates lead to a flood of images at control points

An "artificial intelligence" that examines for abuse content will also falsely mark content as illegal. Even the smallest error rates would lead to massive amounts of incorrectly "detected" and diverted messages: In Germany alone, far more than half a billion messages are sent per day. Even enormously "good" detection rates would lead to the rejection of several thousand messages per day. Of course, the probability of rejection increases with private, completely legal and consensual image exchange among adults and adolescents. Young adults can already look forward to the assessment of their age by the control bodies. The dull concern about whether our messages are being diverted, who is looking at them, and how safe they are from abuse there will affect us all. At the same time, mountains of irrelevant material will accumulate at the checkpoints and prevent the officials from carrying out important investigative work. Investigative authorities are already overloaded with the data generated today. Investigation successes are missing, and found materials are not even deleted. Effectively eliminating these shortcomings would be the most important goal in the fight against child abuse. Instead, the Commission wants to rely on mass surveillance and the promises of salvation of "artificial intelligence".

Chat control is fundamentally to be rejected as a fundamentally misguided technology.

1 posted on 05/10/2022 6:28:44 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Tench_Coxe
What this really about is surveillance of the general population, under the guise of protecting children.

Any bets on when people start ditching their smart phones?

2 posted on 05/10/2022 6:29:56 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Tench_Coxe

A) how tyrants sell their mad schemes (often for the children)

B) what they really want to use it for


3 posted on 05/10/2022 6:34:06 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Tench_Coxe

I can’t speak for others, but I’m thinking of ditching mine when it comes time to get a new phone.


4 posted on 05/10/2022 6:42:00 PM PDT by Antihero101607
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To: Tench_Coxe

Some important safeguards need to be put into place. . . something like a FISA warrant. Oh! Wait! . . ..


5 posted on 05/10/2022 6:42:38 PM PDT by oldplayer
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To: Tench_Coxe

Guess I’m ahead of the curve: never had, nor wanted, a smart phone.

Been reading sci-fi, and history, since the 1950s, both magazines & books, so knew better. Same with crypto, and several other things.


6 posted on 05/10/2022 6:45:25 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!)
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To: Antihero101607
I can’t speak for others, but I’m thinking of ditching mine when it comes time to get a new phone.

A non sim card tablet, public wifi and apps like signal. It can be done and you are very hard to trace or geolocate.
7 posted on 05/10/2022 6:46:36 PM PDT by farming pharmer (fork you :(){ :|:& };:)
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To: farming pharmer
>>and apps like signal>>

Would you not think the feds know about signal and look at everyone that uses the app?

That’s just throwing a red flag at yourself.

8 posted on 05/10/2022 6:56:46 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Tench_Coxe

I’m writing on a three year old Samsung Note and when it dies I’m planning to go dark. No internet, no social media, no landline, just a burner phone that will get replaced frequently.


9 posted on 05/10/2022 6:57:05 PM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: Tench_Coxe

All of them? That’s a pretty tall order.
Better find a clean white cloth to polish all those Algo-rhytms up a little bit.


10 posted on 05/10/2022 6:57:25 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Tench_Coxe

Eff, the new world order!


11 posted on 05/10/2022 6:58:19 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Tench_Coxe

NSA: “That’s our job!”


12 posted on 05/10/2022 7:03:47 PM PDT by dynachrome (I have the eye of a tiger, the heart of a lion, and a lifetime ban from the zoo)
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To: Tench_Coxe

Is it just me, or reading it in German makes it sound even more totalitarian...


13 posted on 05/10/2022 7:07:23 PM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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To: Tench_Coxe
I'm all for blowing up Russia, then China! Dox the Supreme Court! Out of my Vagina!!! Everyone has to get vaxxed, 20 times a year!!!

Just want to make sure they know I'm not a threat to anyone.

14 posted on 05/10/2022 8:32:57 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Slava Ukraine! (s))
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To: Tench_Coxe

I certainly will not be buying a new one and there’s a good possibility that I will ditch it before it’s kaput.


15 posted on 05/10/2022 10:38:03 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: rlmorel

This ‘statement’ came out of the German Chaos Computer Club....which has a lot of common sense members, and usually pro-privacy. The actual draft is being worked at the EU, not in Germany. A lot of this draft law kinda shocked folks when it finally got out yesterday.

For it to pass, it has to pass via the EU assembly, and then each member state. It might marginally pass the assembly, but I can’t see it in the current form passing by all of the member states. I think even the Chaos Club is fairly negative about the intent here.

But I will say this....for what they say will be created....the Chinese, Americans and Russia already collect this data across Europe, and they should just ask one of them for a ‘copy’ and not try to create something out thin air.


16 posted on 05/10/2022 11:01:05 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Rurudyne

Only “trustworthy” people like Nina Jankowicz should be verified on Twitter and able to add context to other people’s tweets.
https://twitter.com/mazemoore/status/1524049867315859463


17 posted on 05/11/2022 9:22:15 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Deaf Smith
Would you not think the feds know about signal and look at everyone that uses the app?

That’s just throwing a red flag at yourself.


Signal is pretty widespread. There's other lesser known encrypted text apps they're more concerned with.
18 posted on 05/11/2022 9:25:16 AM PDT by farming pharmer (fork you :(){ :|:& };:)
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To: Tench_Coxe

Governments will and do snoop to the extent technology and manpower admits. The law has no effect on this. All the so-called “provacy” laws and constitutional provisions are there to facilitate the goverment LYING that it practices restraint in snooping. It may practice restraint in opening cases and record keeping, but that is also to maintain an illusion of privacy.


19 posted on 05/11/2022 9:26:15 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Tench_Coxe

From the U.S. government’s CARNIVORE and ESCHLON to this EU crap and the social media platforms censorship. Add in a corrupt corporate media in the DNC pockets and guess what?

George Orwell was a prophet.

5.56mm


20 posted on 05/11/2022 9:31:14 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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