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Vladimir Putin's generals and top brass 'turning on each other' to avoid his wrath
Mirror UK ^ | 5/7/2022 | Kieren Williams

Posted on 05/07/2022 4:43:51 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: ought-six

I asked for an example of their propaganda, and apparently you couldn’t provide one.


21 posted on 05/07/2022 6:12:27 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: jimwatx

Their persistent claim that the president of Ukraine is a Jew and a Nazi at the same time would be Exhibit A.


22 posted on 05/07/2022 6:19:42 PM PDT by lump in the melting pot
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To: jimwatx

Well, Sparky, you conclude that everything from the West is propaganda, and the fact you avoid any admission of Russian propaganda (which is ubiquitous), just shows your bias. Propaganda is universal; but you apparently think Russia is clean in that regard.


23 posted on 05/07/2022 6:21:44 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: lump in the melting pot

Well Zelensky is Jewish and they didn’t specifically call him a Nazi, they were referring to some of his Nazi troops.


24 posted on 05/07/2022 6:25:37 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: ought-six

Still can’t provide an example huh?


25 posted on 05/07/2022 6:26:19 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: jimwatx

And you honestly think that bona fide Nazis would follow a Jewish president into battle? Really?


26 posted on 05/07/2022 6:27:06 PM PDT by lump in the melting pot
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To: lump in the melting pot

Well it’s been reported that the Azov battalion is being paid by the Ukrainian Oligarch Kolomoisky who is Jewish, so I guess they were willing to overlook that for money. And besides those Ukrainians being called ‘Nazis’ are called that because they were aligned with Germany in WW2 against Russia, so their definition of what constitutes a Nazis may differ somewhat from ours.


27 posted on 05/07/2022 6:34:55 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: jimwatx; ought-six; lump in the melting pot
I asked for an example of their propaganda, and apparently you couldn’t provide one.

My favorite from Game of Thrones:

 winking face face with tears of joy face with tears of joy

How the neoconned respond to queries about their assertions...

28 posted on 05/07/2022 6:38:08 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: jimwatx

Just google “Russian propaganda news” for your reading pleasure. Rand.org has a good analysis, as well as others.


29 posted on 05/07/2022 6:41:22 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: jimwatx

Exactly. Russia’s definition of ‘Nazi’ is anyone who is opposed to Russia, it has nothing to do with that person’s actual political philosophy. Yes, in WWII many Ukrainians aligned with the Germans but for very understandable reasons. Stalin just got done starving millions of them to death, is anyone surprised that they would align with anyone, even Hitler to fight against the genocidal maniac who tried to exterminate them?


30 posted on 05/07/2022 6:41:25 PM PDT by lump in the melting pot
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To: kiryandil

Just google “Russian propaganda news” for your reading pleasure. Rand.org has a good analysis, as well as others.


31 posted on 05/07/2022 6:42:20 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: marcusmaximus
Once again, you're posting Biden regime propaganda.

When all this disinformation is exposed as lies, lies that lead to disastrous consequences, many of us are going to ask why in hell you and many others here aligned yourself with the Biden regime.

It's going to be fun.

32 posted on 05/07/2022 6:44:46 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: ought-six
The Rand Corporation? Really?

I'm aware of how to identify propaganda. Been doing it for a long time.

33 posted on 05/07/2022 6:48:23 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: ought-six

Look I ain’t your Google boy, you made the assertion so it’s up to you to provide the evidence.


34 posted on 05/07/2022 6:52:46 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: McGruff

REEEEE!!! Everyone is lying! Mother Russia is doing great! REEEEE!!!!!


35 posted on 05/07/2022 6:55:16 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: lump in the melting pot

The Azov battalion openly sport Nazi tattoos and insignia, are extreme nationalists who burned down a church in Odessa full of Orthodox Russian worshippers, and committed many other heinous acts against Russian speakers. If not Nazis what do you prefer to call them? They are the worst sort of scum.


36 posted on 05/07/2022 6:57:28 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: jimwatx

And Putin is using the notorious Wagner Group, founded by Dimitri Utkin, a former GRU who is identified as being Neo-Nazi (he even has an SS tattoo on his neck or shoulder). The Wagner Group chose its name because of German composer Richard Wagner, Hitler’s favorite composer. Within the Wagner Group is a unit called Task Force Rusich, which is also reported to have Neo-Nazi sympathies.


37 posted on 05/07/2022 7:01:26 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: jimwatx

Then why do they follow the battle orders of a Jew?


38 posted on 05/07/2022 7:05:46 PM PDT by lump in the melting pot
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To: kiryandil

“The Rand Corporation? Really? I’m aware of how to identify propaganda. Been doing it for a long time.”

Yeah; me, too.

So are you saying that Russia does not engage in propaganda?

At least I’m honest, and say every country practices propaganda. It’s just that some are very proficient at it, and others are rather crude and clumsy about it.

But I’ve noticed that the pro-Russia posters on FR NEVER admit to any Russian propaganda. Isn’t that curious?


39 posted on 05/07/2022 7:07:15 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: jimwatx

“Look I ain’t your Google boy, you made the assertion so it’s up to you to provide the evidence.”

Not taking sides, but it seems appropriate to point out that you also made assertions without providing evidence.


40 posted on 05/07/2022 7:07:42 PM PDT by calenel (Undo the Coup)
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