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To: rlmorel

Your belief or lack thereof in physics as it exists at this time doesn’t change the boundaries that exist on chemical and physical processes. Batteries work by combining an electron acceptor (oxidant) and electron donor (fuel) and getting those electrons to do some work on the way. unlike combustion the process in a battery has to be reversible by forcing electrons to flow backwards in the battery or the battery isn’t any good:

The only two ways to get more energy out of a battery is find something that is more energetic than lithium’s change in oxidation states and yet still can be reversed. There might be something, but no one’s found it yet despite hundreds of researchers looking full time. And the other way is to make the battery bigger. Ie heavier thus decreasing the energy efficiency of the vehicle. I am not now nor will I ever be a fan of EVs they are a solution for which there is no problem.


149 posted on 05/07/2022 3:56:09 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: from occupied ga

I am a scientist, but I am also a historian, so I understand things like the state of physics before Einstein and after Einstein. In the spirit of that example, I believe that is is **possible** (not certain) that some person not named Einstein may unlock a key to the storage or generation of energy at some point in the future.

Because I believe those things does not mean I am one of those chicken-with-the-head-cut-off types who are squawking that we have to outlaw petroleum based fuels and ban internal combustion engines. I am dead set against this. As a matter of fact, I think those people are ideologically driven mental midgets, when they aren’t intellectually deficient mental midgets.

If I had money to burn, I might buy some electric car more as a hobby or protection against a human induced shortage of petroleum. I lived through those times. I hated that, and that was human induced. We are going to see it again and I am not looking forward to it. But I keep in mind that a shortage of petroleum doesn’t just mean a gasoline shortage, so unlike the idiots on the other side, I don’t think I will blithely be able to plug into a wall outlet and get around it all.

I feel like we are arguing when we shouldn’t be. I think we are on the same side here.

Possibly, the root of that may be that you are likely thinking of batteries in a traditional sense, and I am not. I am 100% in agreement with you that nobody has found a revolutionary way to store energy yet using the standard battery model. I just think that we may find in the future that there is a way to do it we simply don’t know yet.


151 posted on 05/07/2022 6:17:46 PM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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