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Did the US really take Russia’s NATO concerns ‘very seriously’?
responsiblestatecraft ^ | APRIL 28, 2022 | Alex Jordan

Posted on 04/28/2022 9:40:37 AM PDT by RandFan

Secretary of State Anthony Blinken appeared to contradict one of his top deputies in an exchange with Sen. Rand Paul before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Tuesday, re-igniting questions about the Biden administration’s diplomatic strategy in the months leading up to Russia’s illegal and aggressive war on Ukraine.

Of course, the media chatter surrounding yesterday’s hearing largely ignored the latest evidence that U.S. diplomats missed a potential opportunity to prevent Russia’s war, focusing instead on conflating Paul’s attempts to explain Russia’s actions with efforts to justify them.

I’d encourage you to watch their full exchange.

Sen. Paul opened his comments by saying that “while there is no justification for Putin’s war on Ukraine, it does not follow that there’s no explanation for the invasion.” Yet during his testimony, Sec. Blinken seemingly rejected the need for any further exploration of Russia’s motivations, instead asserting the same, dangerous combination of over-certainty and incuriousness about the “the other side” that has fueled so many disastrous U.S. foreign policy decisions.

Blinken told Paul that the Biden administration “took very seriously the arguments that some Russians were putting forward back last fall, that they had concerns about Ukraine’s eventual membership in NATO, in terms of their security posture.” Yet Blinken’s assertion appears to be at odds with what Derek Chollet, counselor to the Secretary of State, recently told War On the Rocks’ Ryan Edwards: that the U.S. refused to discuss the possibility of Ukraine’s NATO membership during diplomatic efforts leading up to the war, and treated Ukraine’s NATO membership as a “non-issue” during talks with Russia.

It’s tough to square Blinken’s claim that U.S. negotiators engaged “very seriously” with Russia’s security concerns with Chollet’s admission that they explicitly refused to discuss Ukraine’s NATO aspirations. Because whatever the U.S. side may have thought about Ukraine’s entrance into NATO before the war, it’s hardly a “non-issue” for Russia.

In the weeks leading up to the invasion, Putin himself expressed frustration that Russia’s NATO concerns were being ignored, saying that “we need to resolve this question now … (and) we hope very much our concern will be heard by our partners and taken seriously.” But don’t just take Putin’s word for it — in 2008, then-U.S. Ambassador to Russia (and current CIA Director) William Burns wrote in a State Dept. memo that: “Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all redlines for the Russian elite (not just Putin). In more than two and a half years of conversations with key Russian players…I have yet to find anyone who view Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests.”

In fact, more than 30 years of analysis from U.S. foreign policy leaders like Burns, George Kennan, and Fiona Hill indicates that NATO’s expansion is, in fact, a core security concern for Russia; it is in this context that Sen. Paul challenged the wisdom of a Nov. 2021 statement reaffirming U.S. support for Ukraine’s NATO aspirations, asking Blinken to explain how the administration weighed the imperative to avert a Russian invasion against their desire to keep NATO’s door “open” to Ukraine (despite “knowing full well” that Ukraine was unlikely to join the alliance).

At a moment when the Biden administration has signaled an openness to expanding U.S. war aims beyond defending Ukrainian sovereignty, the American people deserve to know how our leaders both assess the credibility of Russian demands and balance the threat of further escalations and violence against maintaining abstract principles like NATO’s open door. Instead, Blinken largely refused to engage with the substance of Paul’s questions, mounting a vigorous defense of NATO’s open-door policy and rejecting the notion that NATO expansion had anything to do with Russia’s choice to launch a war in Ukraine.

We can’t know for certain whether more rigorous U.S-Russia diplomacy — including discussions surrounding NATO expansion and Ukrainian neutrality — might have succeeded in preventing Russia’s invasion. We won’t know because it was — according to White House officials — never really tried. This makes Blinken’s refusal to even engage with Sen. Paul on these questions all the more concerning because understanding the other parties’ motivations and interests is foundational to any future successful diplomatic effort.

Sen. Paul was right to remind Blinken that “war very rarely ends in complete victory by either side.” At some point in the future, the U.S. will hopefully have the opportunity to play a productive role in diplomatic negotiations aimed at preserving Ukrainian sovereignty and ending Russia’s illegal war.

If these efforts are to succeed, Secretary Blinken and U.S. diplomats must take seriously their obligation to understand Russia’s motivations and beliefs; refusing to engage with Russia’s core demands might feel good, but it does not make for “very serious” diplomacy.


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1 posted on 04/28/2022 9:40:37 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Short, pithy, and sweet answer?

No!


2 posted on 04/28/2022 9:57:13 AM PDT by cranked
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To: RandFan

“Did the US really take Russia’s NATO concerns ‘very seriously’?”

Of course not and nor should NATO give a damn about Russian concerns.

Russia’s invasions of Georgia and Ukraine underlined the continued importance of NATO to collectively defend the free nations of Europe from a resurgent Soviet Empire. Russia does not get to have a voice in who wants to defend against Russian aggression or how they choose to defend themselves.

It is Russia’s choice to not attack their neighbors with the intent to annex their territory.

And it is wholly irrational for these gangsters to complain when other nations don’t care to cooperate with the imperialistic delusions of Tsar Pidor Putin.

(Redacted) you Russia. Stay in your own damned country and stop concerning yourselves over how other people want to defend themselves from your depredations.

And, may I add, stop whining like little bitches because we won’t play nice with you when every other day you make threats of using nuclear weapons on everyone.

One of these days we might not be so amused by Russian histrionics and instead decide that you’ve made one threat too many.


3 posted on 04/28/2022 10:02:46 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: RandFan
Well, we did examine them seriously, and found their stated "fears" to be nonexistent, which is par for the course for Russia.

What they didn't take seriously (and should have) was that the Russian elites traditional policy of looting by territorial aggrandizement was back in force. Just like April Gillespie's discussion with Saddam Hussein before the invasion of Kuwait, where she stated the US had no position on the oil field dispute with Kuwait after Hussein put a gun on the table.

US foreign policy is still conducted by the same clueless buffoons as then. They live in the multilateral institutional dream world, and have zero ability to think outside that bubble, still less to understand that the post-WWII institutional framework is viewed as a US imposition by both Russia and China, even as they have taken advantage of it.

4 posted on 04/28/2022 10:04:36 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: MercyFlush

Agree completely.<p

Russian concerns specifically about deployment of nuclear weapons in Ukraine is something that could be discussed. But Russia’s flat out opposition to any former bloc or SSR joining NATO for Article 5 protection is unreasonable, and should be defied.


5 posted on 04/28/2022 10:05:06 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: RandFan
Russia was worried that NATO was expanding Eastwards towards Russia, when in fact former Soviet Satellite nations have been moving Westward towards NATO.

NATO didn't invade these countries and occupy them, those countries requested to join NATO.

There is a big difference between "NATO expansion towards Russia" and "Leaving the Russian sphere of influence for the West."

Putin can't handle the latter.

6 posted on 04/28/2022 10:07:11 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“Russian concerns specifically about deployment of nuclear weapons in Ukraine is something that could be discussed.”

Here’s how I’d discuss it with them:

“Hey, since you jerks keep threatening to nuke Ukraine we’ve given the Ukies 100 nuclear armed missiles with the range to devastate every single major population center in Russia including Vladivostok. I’d recommend not pissing off the Ukies. End of discussion.”


7 posted on 04/28/2022 10:09:00 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Well phrased! Hope you don’t mind if I borrow that!


8 posted on 04/28/2022 10:09:47 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: MercyFlush
Well phrased! Hope you don’t mind if I borrow that!>

I've said it before in other threads, and I think I said it more eloquently in the past, but help yourself.

9 posted on 04/28/2022 10:13:08 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: RandFan

First strike


10 posted on 04/28/2022 10:25:00 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: RandFan

source is a Left/Progressive outfit - I looked at their bios


11 posted on 04/28/2022 11:16:17 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: RandFan

Have to wonder what is happening behind closed doors. My guess Biden is held in isolation and fed BS. He honestly believes what he says.


12 posted on 04/28/2022 11:23:00 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Sure, just like the opposition to the Chinese deployment on Solomon Islands.


13 posted on 04/28/2022 12:52:59 PM PDT by NorseViking
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