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To: skeeter
Not an artilleryman among you! - No matter which 155 they are sending (my guess is that they will be our excess M-198s), our fire control and sighting systems work on a different azimuth scale than the Russian/Ukrainian systems.

They use a 6000 mil (16.7 mils. degree of angle) system and we use a 6400 mil (17.8 mils/degree of angle) system - so, yes, they have to be trained and not mix the systems.

I was in artillery for 27 years and one of my claims to fame was training US personnel on the Soviet D30 122mm howitzer. I had my own captured version several years back and my own Marine gun crew to man it.

17 posted on 04/22/2022 6:38:25 AM PDT by Chainmail (99.36% of all statistics are made up on the spot)
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To: Chainmail

The closest I’ve ever come to a 155 is when I hired a guy who was ex army artillery to pour my driveway. He was as deaf as a doorknob.


22 posted on 04/22/2022 6:42:37 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Chainmail
You're right about everything except no other artillerymen here. 0802 - spent a few years as a battery FDO.

And yup, firing the gun itself is the easiest part of this. Learning a completely new fire direction/data computing system that is going to be the hardest part.

31 posted on 04/22/2022 7:05:00 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Chainmail

[Not an artilleryman among you! - No matter which 155 they are sending (my guess is that they will be our excess M-198s), our fire control and sighting systems work on a different azimuth scale than the Russian/Ukrainian systems. ]


Based on the following article, it appears the first batch of 18 pieces were M198s, whereas the second batch of 72 pieces will be M777s:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/five-battalions-worth-of-american-howitzers-heading-to-eastern-front-of-ukraine


77 posted on 04/25/2022 12:05:03 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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