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To: dynoman

This is untrue. If someone is having chest pains due to any id the innumerates reasons that these rather agenda driven people stare, it would most certain to turn up on standard screening

You have inadvertently tripped on a problem that is being seen more and more with technology. What is clinically significant? We have some tests that are so exquisitely sensitive that we are not sure what they clinically mean.

And so you think microclot as you hypothesize is going to be found on the modalities you suggest? You are working backwards from a conclusion that is not demonstrated trying to prove something that if it exists is likely not clinically relevant.

And the sources as others point out is at best dubious. Someone said someone said is not great theory. But if 30% of pilots were in this condition certain the pilot who responded would be able to provide data in support of the hypothesis. He refutes it. Pilots never fly together multiple times in a row (CRM theory) so certainly our pilot friend would have seen multiple colleagues with this issue. It doesn’t exist. So either he is part of the conspiracy or the statements are not accurate. I don’t think pilots are somehow conspiring to keep data from being discovered.

The statements quoted in the OP are garbage and not supported by easily observable data.


46 posted on 04/22/2022 7:38:58 AM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

Re: 46 - Sorry, but posting sense on this thread is a pretty lonely endeavor.


52 posted on 04/22/2022 7:46:31 AM PDT by Fury
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To: gas_dr; Yo-Yo; GaryCrow; DugwayDuke; rdcbn1

“If someone is having chest pains due to any id the innumerates reasons that these rather agenda driven people stare, it would most certain to turn up on standard screening”

It’s not that simple.

“Acute aortic dissection (AAD), acute pulmonary embolism (PE) and acute myocardial infarction (AMI) are all emergent diseases with acute chest pain. However, it is sometimes difficult to diagnose these diseases by symptoms, ECG changes and/or cardiac biomarkers, especially immediately after onset. Because these diseases are all thrombogenic diseases, we considered that D-dimer could be helpful to differentiate these diseases.”

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21478122/

That’s what the doctors sending the letter to the FAA are talking about.


57 posted on 04/22/2022 7:56:46 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: gas_dr; Yo-Yo; GaryCrow; DugwayDuke; rdcbn1; Ex-Con777
"If someone is having chest pains due to any id the innumerates reasons that these rather agenda driven people stare, it would most certain to turn up on standard screening"

"D -Dimer is an early diagnostic marker of coronary ischemia in patients with chest pain"
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0002870300163951

The doctors want tests not normally done to find any problems earlier instead of later. Read post 61 and watch this video to see why;

So sad for #PilotBobSnow @AmericanAir. Forced jab destroyed his life. Had he collapsed 30 minutes earlier it would have destroyed 300 others’ lives. 🙏🏼@drcole12 @richardursomd @P_McCulloughMD @HGessling @KLVeritas pic.twitter.com/a0ScIflQ9H— Dr. Lynn Fynn (Fan Account) (@fynn_fan) April 20, 2022


64 posted on 04/22/2022 8:16:42 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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