Forget good guys and bad guys.
I’d argue we have no freaking idea what in Hades is really going on. Or why.
If that’s the case, we can’t determine jack ****.
That’s why, when I bother to go to the Russia/Ukraine threads, it’s to ask how we’re supposed to believe anything we’re being told by the same people who ended our republic?
Everything we’re being told/shown is being told/shown to us by proven liars and enemies.
Who in his/her right mind can make any kind of decision, form an opinion based on info that is highly suspect?
Until we get our republic back, they can all go to Hell with my blessing.
All we reslly know for sure is Putin and Zalensky are like kleptocrats, Putin might be unbalanced, and Russia isn’t the awesome force most people thought, but does have thousands of ICBMs.
What can we conclude from these known details?