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1 posted on 04/17/2022 11:35:53 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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On Good Friday Jesus was executed by crucifixion for treason after claiming he was “King of the Jews”

He never claimed that he was "king of the Jews." He said that his kingdom is not of this world.

2 posted on 04/17/2022 11:40:27 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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[snip] Mr Onfray stated in 1980: “At the time, Jews were not crucified, but stoned to death.” ...However, Mr Onfray’s claims have been refuted by 1968 discovery of Jehohanan, a Jewish man who had been put to death by crucifixion in the 1st century.

Dr John Dickson, the director of the Centre for Public Christianity, wrote in Sydney Morning Herald in 2008: “Jews were perhaps the most crucified people in antiquity.

“The Dead Sea Scrolls and Josphus both report an incident where 800 Pharisees were crucified on one day; their wives and children made to look on.

“Josephus tells us further that during the siege of Jerusalem in AD70 the Romans crucified 500 Jews a day while sacking the city.”

He added: “Actually our only archaeological remains of a crucifixion victim ‒ a male heel bone with an 11-centimietre nail still in place ‒ were discovered in a Jewish tomb.

“This Jew, like Jesus, had been crucified and then properly buried.” [/snip]
Crucifixion was a Roman punishment, so, that figures. Thanks nickcarraway.

3 posted on 04/17/2022 11:51:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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"We have a right, if not an obligation, to respect ourselves enough to disbelieve the whole thing”."

How do academics devise such gobbly-gook? With his logic, I have a right, obligation, and respect for myself NOT to believe in black holes.

4 posted on 04/17/2022 11:55:00 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021. )
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What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence” Hitchens’s Razor


5 posted on 04/17/2022 11:57:39 AM PDT by barney10
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“The late Christopher Hitchens” made his choices. He will not get to choose the consequences of them.


7 posted on 04/17/2022 12:02:48 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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The scoffers just don’t want to bend the knee, even when facing overwhelming evidence.

Not realizing they will be compelled to do so before being consigned to excruciating torment for all eternity, in the Lake of Fire. Their eternal bodies will resemble that of a worm. No more use of sexual appendages, no more rock music vocals, no more hands to hold their favorite idols.

No grace as small as experiencing a puppy’s breath. No break in the torment. Only wailing and gnashing of teeth.

All because of pride and lusts.


8 posted on 04/17/2022 12:03:15 PM PDT by Salvavida
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The resurrection of Jesus Christ is a matter of faith...

Believers choose to believe and do not demand incontrovertible proof...

For those who deny, no amount of evidence would ever suffice...

Choose...


9 posted on 04/17/2022 12:19:21 PM PDT by elteemike (Light is faster than sound; that's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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Historical Evidence for the Resurrection:

https://www.faithfacts.org/search-for-truth/contemporary-scholarship


10 posted on 04/17/2022 12:29:04 PM PDT by grumpa
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11 posted on 04/17/2022 12:30:08 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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Persuasive evidence for the "rest of the story" includes the first witnesses being women (not something likely included in myth making in a patriarchal society or by a group of 12 devout Jews), and that the authorities were never able to produce a body or explain why a sealed and guarded tomb became empty (there were rumors about a promised "resurrection" that they would have wanted to refute at all costs).

Finally, the twelve core members of the movement afterward traveled thousands of miles retelling the story at great risk, none recanting and all but one suffering their own executions for that omission. Thousands of others were persecuted and murdered by Jewish zealots such as Saul of Tarsus and by the Roman authorities. Mass murders at the hands of the followers of an Arabian pedophile war lord continue unabated. I'm not aware of similar tales of devotion to the point of death in other major religions of the world besides in Judaism (to our shame, more often than not at the hands of Christians) and Christianity.

When you look at it as a pivotal event, the Resurrection (two days after Passover during the rule of a known Roman governor) probably ought to be, instead of an imprecisely dated Nativity, the starting point of the "Common Era" of historic record keeping.

16 posted on 04/17/2022 1:29:54 PM PDT by katana
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All the historical “proof” in the world will not convince someone who doesn’t want to believe.

The Jews of His day lived and walked with Him and saw His miracles, and yet still didn’t believe, but rather crucified Him,

In the account of the rich man and Lazarus, Abraham tells the man in Hades that even if someone rose from the dead, it would not convince his brothers. They had the Law and the Prophets. That’s all they needed.


17 posted on 04/17/2022 1:30:11 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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Jesus was a descendent of David, and so was a royal. The last King of the Jews. Herod, had died and there was not an official current king of the Jews. Jesus could easily have claimed that title if he wanted to.


20 posted on 04/17/2022 1:52:43 PM PDT by mjp (pro-freedom & pro-wealth $)
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Jesus was a descendent of David, and so was a royal. The last King of the Jews. Herod, had died and there was not an official current king of the Jews. Jesus could easily have claimed that title if he wanted to.


21 posted on 04/17/2022 1:52:43 PM PDT by mjp (pro-freedom & pro-wealth $)
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Scoffers.
Luke
Chapter 16

28For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.


22 posted on 04/17/2022 3:32:20 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (BACK in Facebook jail for posting a euneuch does not voluntarily submit to surgery like a tranny)
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bump


24 posted on 04/17/2022 9:07:28 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If science can’t be questioned, it’s not science anymore, it’s propaganda. --Aaron Rodgers)
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