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To: MomwithHope

Suffering does not come from God. He would never make us suffer. We are a sinful people in a fallen world that’s controlled by Satan. With that said, God uses ALL things for good for those that love Him and are called according to His purpose.


6 posted on 04/12/2022 5:42:54 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001

Not the place for an argument and I don’t do that. I believe God permits all things. And suffering can serve His purpose for us. Go see the movie!


7 posted on 04/12/2022 5:48:07 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: spacejunkie2001; MomwithHope
Suffering does not come from God.

Not for nothing, and it is unquestionably paradoxical to suggest-
But the God of the bible, the God Who IS Love,
is certainly capable of sending plagues or a famine our way.

That is not to say God causes Suffering intentionally per se
in terms that our human reason can assign.
Though we must always remember we cannot know the mind of God-
or bind him in any way to our faulty ideals...
23 posted on 04/12/2022 8:31:38 PM PDT by MurphsLaw (“every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment.")
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To: spacejunkie2001
"Suffering does not come from God. He would never make us suffer. We are a sinful people in a fallen world that’s controlled by Satan."

Rather, God does indeed send suffering, either in judgment upon the impenitent (ask ol Pharaoh of Moses time) or to teach obedience or turn souls to repentance, often by using the devil to do so.

But Pharaoh shall not hearken unto you, that I may lay my hand upon Egypt, and bring forth mine armies, and my people the children of Israel, out of the land of Egypt by great judgments. (Exodus 7:4)

So Gad came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the Lord, Choose thee Either three years’ famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee; or else three days the sword of the Lord, even the pestilence, in the land, and the angel of the Lord destroying throughout all the coasts of Israel. Now therefore advise thyself what word I shall bring again to him that sent me. (1 Chronicles 21:11-12)

Arise, O Lord, disappoint him, cast him down: deliver my soul from the wicked, which is thy sword: (Psalms 17:13)

Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. (Revelation 2:22)

For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. (Hebrews 12:6-8)

But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. (1 Corinthians 11:32)

26 posted on 04/13/2022 10:02:51 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save U + be baptized + follow Him!)
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