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To: Albion Wilde

Liam’s portrayer is a big-time atheist. Not one of those “I’ll leave you alone” atheists, but one of those billboard-glaring, in-your-face atheist types. He’s made it a religion. I’ve never understood why he became the center of attention for both Steffy and Hope. I remember when he was the teenaged “twerpyish/edgy” son of Tracy Quartermaine on GH, he was annoying back then.

I’ve surmised that B&B simply cannot write for Black characters, and they have a “Negro Limit” on the show. Once there are more than three Blacks in an active storyline, somebody is about to disappear. Carter has been so poorly written, only surpassed by the even worse treatment of Justin Barber’s character (and while he’s still on the credits, he has vanished, along with the storyline he was in after going rogue on Dollar Bill Spencer). The Avant family vanished, too, despite the fact the one daughter had Rick’s son as a surrogate, nevermind Maya “the tranny.”

They made Justin’s son, Marcus (with Donna Logan) disappear, too, along with poor Dayzee, shipping them all off to South Africa (!) back 9 years ago. Maybe they’re all in Wakanda now.

Anyway, that’s typical of the terrible writing for just the Black characters.

With respect to Y&R, I agree it’s terrible what happened to Kristoff St. John. Curiously, the actor died as they also killed off Devon’s wife. It definitely pushed Bryton James to have to up his game in having to fill Neil’s shoes. I’m at least glad they didn’t recast Neil. Some characters you just can’t recast.

Rey was fading away into the background. I didn’t fully expect they’d kill him off but would head him in the direction of an affair with Chelsea. When they sent his family back to Miami, he was sort of just by himself. Another thing was that I never thought he had much chemistry with Sharon. Why he’d want to marry someone a decade older with her track record and too old to start a family with didn’t ring true. At least with Chelsea he could’ve had a kid, and he clearly was partial to being a father-figure to her son (and his character was clearly pining for a kid, and not for his stepchildren).

As for Abby and Chance, they’ve had so many actor changes for the latter, I can’t really get all that invested. The current actor just isn’t doing it. The prior actor was better and had good chemistry with Abby.

Phyllis is OK, but can get stuck in a rut. With her kids all gone, she’s lost focus. I enjoyed the actress taking a break from Y&R to play a new character on GH. They brought Diane back from the dead, although the previous actress before Maura West now looks like a very rough and haggard 70 (shocking to see her in the flashbacks when she looked young for her age).

As for the Victoria and Ashton Locke storyline, it really died with the firing of Richard Burgi. They had chemistry, but the new guy, who was apparently a beloved vet of Guiding Light (a soap I never watched), seems like a stand-in who was just acting like a constipated robot. They really should can this guy and get Burgi back to save the convoluted as hell storyline (which I never bought, since if Ashton was faking cancer, they showed Burgi’s Ashton clearly ill even with no one around to “sell” it to - so apparently they must’ve decided to retcon the storyline).

I won’t even touch the Mariah & Tessa storyline, except to say it seems forced and political because sadly the writers couldn’t do a close friendship storyline without turning it sexual. Neither of the actresses being lesbians makes it all the more silly. I’m presuming they will try to get Tessa “out of the lifestyle” to be with Noah (because, despite all the claims of wanting to portray gays and trannies and whatnot, the mostly female viewing audience doesn’t want to see that stuff).


50 posted on 04/21/2022 2:28:58 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Plugs the Pedo - The Shart Heard 'Round The World)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

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I read that they fired Burgi because he came back from quarantine too soon, and rules is rules. Dumb move — they should have put him on ice for a month or two and let him come back.

I also read that the former Chance (Danny Boaz), whom I liked, was forced off the show because most of the cast and especially Eric Braeden hate Trump, but Boaz supported him, so Braeden had a hissy fit and forced him out. Boaz is from Texas originally, and with that trace of an accent, he sounded more authentically like a “militarry” guy. The new one looks like he would ‘t know a rifle from a weed whacker.

Your take on B&B’s poor writing for black characters sounds right on the money. Granted, California blacks who have good jobs may be a whole different thing than our originals on the east coast and the south, but what a waste of the Carter character, Lawrence Saint-Victor. The Justin Barber character was miscast to begin with—he just doesn’t have a “top lawyer” vibe. But you’re right; the storyline of making war on Bill Spencer could have been great, but they wasted it. The B&B character I like best is the wicked naughty Quinn! But that’s best among a bunch of quite mediocre players.

I also read that the Sheila actress is an avocado farmer. What an interesting person! She has an actual life.

Thorston Kaye needs to have his sinuses treated, and also a long hot shower, a good scrub and a shampoo.

That last part goes double for Eric Braeden, ol’ Greasy Head.


51 posted on 04/21/2022 7:12:38 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If science can’t be questioned, it’s not science anymore, it’s propaganda. --Aaron Rodgers)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
despite all the claims of wanting to portray gays and trannies and whatnot, the mostly female viewing audience doesn’t want to see that stuff).

I figure that's the real reason Rick and Maya were sent off to Europe, never to be seen again. Karla Mosley (the Maya actress) subbed for Hilary on Y&R for a couple of days recently when Mishael was having surgery in real life. That role on B&B ruined Karla.

The one I liked was Maya's mother. That actress (Anna Maria Horsford) played Sherman Helmsley's daughter in an old sitcom called "Amen", about a black pastor who was a little bit shady. It was a clean and very funny show, though. Both she and Helmsley were hilarious, trying to get the young assistant pastor to marry her, and they succeeded.


55 posted on 04/22/2022 12:20:15 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If science can’t be questioned, it’s not science anymore, it’s propaganda. --Aaron Rodgers)
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