[freeandfreezing]

It’s way harder than he expected sure but he will not take a loss.

That is an interesting point because losing in Ukraine really undercuts the world's view of Russia. But Russia lost to Chechnya in 1994 and Yeltsin went along with the ceasefire.

[gibsonguy]

True but Putin is not Yeltsin. He will not allow a humiliating defeat in The Ukraine
He will do whatever it takes