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The US Tried Permanent Daylight Saving Time in the ’70s. People Hated It
washingtonian.com ^ | March 15, 2022 | ANDREW BEAUJON

Posted on 03/16/2022 10:08:39 AM PDT by PROCON

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To: wardamneagle
-- Eliminate all US time zones... --

Railroad time!

141 posted on 03/16/2022 12:31:03 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: GingisK

My Great-Grandfather saw it the same way. He never changed his clocks. “I’m leaving them on God’s time.”

Let’s eliminate time zones all together! Let’s go to “Sun Time”! That way, noon in Nashville and noon in Memphis would be fifteen minutes apart!


142 posted on 03/16/2022 12:33:22 PM PDT by HeadOn (Love God. Lead your family. Be a man.)
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To: PROCON

“Anyone remember?”

No.


143 posted on 03/16/2022 12:36:11 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Red Badger

“We always awoke in the dark...............”

Because you Jarheads had your heads where it was dark. :)


144 posted on 03/16/2022 12:37:14 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Tell It Right

Go back to Standard Time, then people could whine about it getting dark earlier in the evening. Lots easier to change school hours, I’d think.


145 posted on 03/16/2022 12:37:26 PM PDT by oldtech
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To: seowulf

“I remember walking the quarter mile to catch the school bus with a flashlight.”

Around here the bus stops at a house, kids get out, the bus moves 150ft up the road, more kids get out. In town, the bus stops at the house next door to the school, kids get in, then the bus pulls into the school. Then there is the fleet of cars and vans for kids that are too incorrigible to ride the bus.


146 posted on 03/16/2022 12:40:37 PM PDT by beef (Let’s go Baizuo!)
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To: JD_UTDallas

The grain doesn’t care what time it is, your postulating that DST was for the farmer is complete and utter nonsense.

DST was brought in so that factories and cities used less artificial lighting (including gas lighting, kerosene lanterns, and candles) during the FIRST world war.

It had less than NOTHING to do with farmers, who are up before the sun most of the time even today.


147 posted on 03/16/2022 12:42:03 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent
This is the only bad idea that Ben Franklin had.

And maybe "Airbaths"

148 posted on 03/16/2022 12:43:11 PM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: Vigilanteman

I don’t have a problem at all with half hour time zones.

People can learn to live with it and adjust their schedules. They are not stupid. Just lazy.


149 posted on 03/16/2022 12:48:27 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: Tell It Right

But sunrise at 4 AM is just too early.


150 posted on 03/16/2022 12:49:10 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: PROCON

151 posted on 03/16/2022 12:50:25 PM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: PROCON

We need to end the Anglo-chrono-heterodoxy!
Rotate GMT to other nations on a yearly basis!


152 posted on 03/16/2022 12:51:50 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: beef
Around here the bus stops at a house, kids get out, the bus moves 150ft up the road, more kids get out.

Yeah, kids don't seem to know what their feet are for anymore.

We did all kinds of risky things in the 70s. One on the kids' moms would let the five or six of us ride on the hood of her car sometimes on the walk back from the bus stop at the end of the day.

153 posted on 03/16/2022 12:52:53 PM PDT by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: Captain Peter Blood; maxwellsmart_agent

Franklin was only being satirical when he wrote about Parisians being encouraged to get up with the sun and save on oil at night. He never actually proposed changing clocks.

Apparently it was a New Zealand entomologist, George Hudson, who proposed the time change. He wanted not just one but two more hours of light to hunt for insects. This was back in 1895. Hey, if we’re going for one, why not two or even three? Time-pikers!

In 1902, Englishman William Willet proposed 4 incremental time changes during April and reversed in September to Parliament, because he wanted more time for building houses (keep in mind, this wasn’t about how his workers felt about working in the summer heat). Happily, even though Winston Churchill liked the idea, Parliament wisely said no. Imagine 4 time changes in one month!

It wasn’t until Germany put it into practice after WWI (an attempt to save lives), that England and every other country which participated in WWI hopped on the DST bandwagon. Germany lost the first big land-grab but managed to win the war over all of its previous enemies’ circadian rhythms. Masterful! Btw, were there adverse affects on Dr. Who’s time travels?

Back to the USA. The sun rises and sets about the same time every day in Hawaii, which is why they gave up on DST. Arizona has plenty of daylight hours anyway and likes to have some of them during cooler temperatures which is why parts of that state don’t observe it. AZ also has two time zones. Must be fun doing business there.

Notice how not one of the serious time-change proponents had anything to do with agriculture. Farmers and ranchers are usually working either with or against the sun. Clocks don’t matter to animals that need milking. In hot states, morning hours tend to be cooler than late afternoon hours. When would you want to do the physical labor that has to be done outside?

Aside from all the pros and cons and my personal preference for standard time, I am grateful for DST on 9/11/2002. For once, it, in combination with regular time zones, did save thousands of lives all in the space of a few hours since the jihadists miscalculated their optimum time of destruction and murder. Since that mistake is unlikely to happen again, let’s return to giving the sun and our inner clocks their due time-wise.


154 posted on 03/16/2022 1:00:15 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: digger48

How do ya move a barn?


155 posted on 03/16/2022 1:00:29 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: Chickensoup; Blueflag

He lived on a curve in the road where the north/south line was drawn for DST

His house was west of the curve and his barn was east of it

What choice was he supposed to have? It’s not like he was complaining

I was just pointing out an oddity about time zones


156 posted on 03/16/2022 1:52:48 PM PDT by digger48
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To: metmom

When does solar noon occur?


157 posted on 03/16/2022 1:54:45 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: PROCON

I remember that. Biggest problem that arose was that it was dark when the kids were waiting for their school bus. Not very well thought out at all.


158 posted on 03/16/2022 2:05:17 PM PDT by SubVet72
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To: PROCON

It really depends on whether you’re on the east side or west side of the time zone.
I would think those on the east side will like it.


159 posted on 03/16/2022 2:21:33 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by non-compliance; jury and state nullification. )
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To: Jacquerie

I have no idea.


160 posted on 03/16/2022 2:25:41 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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