How many are deaths “with” Covid as opposed to deaths “from” Covid?
The “of” versus “with” covid distinction in most fatal cases is not relevant. Most of those that died “with” covid had secondary co-morbidities that were lined up like dominos to do them in once they caught covid. Covid was the trigger that pushed the rest of the dominos over. One could argue that any other Flu or other Cold style virus or infection could do the same things but where covid was involved, there were specific sx’s and lab values that made treatments much more difficult. You take your average old guys with co-morbidities who get the flu then pneumonia and has to come to the ICU...it’s real touch and go...we give Tamiflu and antibiotics, they need blood pressure support and intubation , with good care we will save 50 to 75 per cent of them and they will at least stabilize for some length of life and quality. With covid, we do the same things save the tamiflu, give some new experimentals, supportive care, steroids and we will still lose 80 percent. It’s what covid19 specifically does in knocking the stuffings out of the liver, the blood vessels and marrow, and the lungs that makes it different from most other viral related pneumonia in the old and with those with co-morbidities.
There were USA published figures of those who died directly “from or of covid” which were about 5 percent of all covid related deaths. The rest were those with co-morbidities.
We haven’t had any covid admits to our ICU in several weeks, I think Omicron innoculated a whole lot of people against the Covid 19 strains generally. I think the vaccines need to stop...for what good they did, the risks of side effects are too great.